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[nq13]

Things have happened that can be "ghostly" but my mind always says there is an explanation. I REALLY want to believe otherwise. To touch on...Last year on 10/27 we were bracing for impact with Super Storm Sandy coming up the coast. My husband and I had hired 2 workers to help with the house. It was a Saturday. I was watching Sandy's progress on my BigScreen tv. In the reflection of the tv I see my husband walk across the kitchen to the bathroom. I called out that Sandy was going to hit us sometime Monday, 29th. He did not answer. He wasn't even in the house. He was up on the street w/the 2 workers. I didn't see a face I just assumed it was him, because who else could it be. I was rattled. This Thursday night I was in the exact same spot on the couch and the overhead light came on. I jumped and turned it off. The switch was in the on position. Things like that have been happening over the last year. One more tidbit...My father was a Physisict, a man of science and an Atheisit. I received a call at work from him (20 years ago) and he was out of his mind. I was so scared a Deputy drove me home. My father told me he had encountered some kind of ghost in the garden and he wanted me to record everything he said so he would have a record of what happened. My father proceed to tell me about what the ghost had said. It took about 20 minutes to record. I can't remember one word my father said and pretty much forgot about it ( I was a teenager). But I do remember I have never seen my father rattled like that ever. He crossed over in 2000 so I can't ask. The fact that someone like my father said he had seen someone is very powerful proof for me. I don't know what happened to the tape. Any insights...? Sorry to ramble. Happy Halloween, Natasha

[nq13]

FYI when I saw the man I thought my husband we were less than 48 hours from the full Moon, this Thursday when the lights came on we were less that 24 hours to the full Moon. If this makes any difference at all...but it just dawned on me that not only same spot but around Halloween. Now I know another connection was the Full Moon. All New Yorkers knew there was a Full Moon on Monday because Sandy was coming and the Full Moon made the tides high and really added impact.

[jimmary]

ng13, I'm an atheist and a believer. Nothing will make one believe more than chasing an entity that disappears before you (my experience at my former workplace). There are many different experiences that can lead a person to believe, though some can have holes shot in them due to the complexities of the experience (voices, noises, vibrations, etc.), but a face-to-face with an entity kind of underscores the fact that they exist in some realm, level, plain, or however they do exist. One does not have to be confused by the experience or accept all theories as to why the experience happened. Research similar happenings, examine theories that make sense to you and file away or discard those that do not. The three entities that I saw at different times were all in different settings and clarity of image. Whereas before I believed dead was dead, now the whole thing just fascinates me knowing that they are there in some whole other world of existence. I'm still an atheist and a skeptic, but I know they exis. For me, an experience just has to be taken beyond reasonable explanation before I say "Yep, that was.....".

[Ravus Aranea]

There is no longer room in my world for doubt and skepticism....i have had some awesome and life changing experiences...so many that I've lost count....and then there are folks like my son in law who have never had one incident and will more than likely never believe....i wish he'd have just one so i could say "told ya"

[jimmary]

I'm skeptical of peronal experiences, not the existence.

There's nothing like a personal experience to change one's mind, but the skepticism is understandable; it's either faith or experience.

[Ravus Aranea]

I guess it's easier to believe someone is "Nuts" than it is to swallow ones ego and realize that just maybe you might be wrong.I'm not skeptical of experiences since I have had my own.....but i do believe we are in a bit of a ghost hysteria phase in this country....it's socially acceptable now in most circles...and in fact popular.I'd say at least 70% is bogus or misdiagnosed ...for lack of a better word.Suddenly everyone is either a medium or an investigator......and yet who are we to say otherwise. I believe everyone has the potential to be sensitive to the spirit world....but it does take an open mind....and there are some folks who are troubled and dramatic for whatever reason...I try very very hard to keep an open mind about other folks and there beliefs and practices. I remind myself that if Jesus himself walked the earth now....he would probably be treated very poorly indeed..he would'nt dress in the big labels or drive the hottest new car...he'd probably be a total outcast......when i think this...my own judgemental attitude adjusts naturally and I am able to step back and allow each person their voice.If a person seems to really want the experience they may read a lot into it...on the other hand if a person seems to really want the experience...well ...be careful what you wish for because an entity  can pick up on that pretty fast. its 6 of one and half a dozen of the other and by golly if It's Jesus I don't want to miss him.

[CaveRat2]

I tend to agree, we are hyper-paranormal these days.  Too many are willing to jump straight to a paranormal explanation before even attempting to find a rational one.   I have been in this field since the mid 1970s and have seen quite a few things that might well be paranormal.  But I have seen many more which with a bit of logic can be explained very easily.  And I have also seen quite a few people who reject the common explanation simply because they want to believe rather than actually have their mystery debunked.  It takes all kinds, and in this field you will find all kinds    If one were to try to put some numbers to it, I would say about 90% are explained by common events; 5% can't be explained because the case simply lacks sufficient data or contains facts which seem contradictory.   But it's that last 5% that makes it all worth while.  Those are the cases which have been analyzed and examined  sometimes by multiple investigators and still can't be easily explained.  They may not all be paranormal but certainly if any cases truly are it will be some in this 5% group.

[jimmary]

I find that to be the case as well, CaveRat.  I have had many friends and even my oldest son try to force the issue on the validity of evicence.  I had to point out to a photographer/high school friend of mine that the image that he took at a cemetery and shot through a chain link fence was actually matrixing caused by the wire mesh of the fence and the flaking bark of a tree from which an apparition was supposedly protruding.  Even though he acknowledged my finding, you could tell in his voice that he wasn't 100% in agreement.  So people are going to believe what they want either way (believer or skeptic) and in many cases they won't listen to reason.  If the explanation is there, I'm not going to adjust my opinion just to make someone feel good about their finding.  If it's real, it's real and enjoy the experience; if it's not, then it's not, so move on and quit forcing the issue.

And then, of course, there are the "I don't know WHAT that was..." moments...

I want evidence to be proven to be the real deal without foresaking the truth.

[Ravus Aranea]

I will admit that I have met some pretty outlandish folks with some pretty farfetched claims. most of these turned out to be so obviously explainable that I was actually embarrassed for them.but there will always be folks who think every knock and bump in the night is a spooky creepy thing......and there will always be folks who think pentagrams are portals and so on and so forth.....to them...at the time..it is real.....and that is why I do take the time to hear these people out. I have never met anyone in this arena who just made up a bunch of nonsense to get me there. I've never met a deliberate fake and hope I never do.I dont do all the bells and whistles for that very reason.I think it is very easy to find a "GHOST" if you go hunting one.The mind wants it's way after all....I think a lot of people are drawn in by the excitement of experiencing something seemingly unnatural....It's  just like extreme sports...an adrenaline rush for some.When a person is really frightened and is looking for help...(not validation).....Then I'l consider it.

[Must_See_To_Believe]

I was bored today and checked out my "Strange Stuff" bookmarks and thought... I haven't been to GV in a long while... I'll check it out.  Last time I came here, I could find no evidence of past friends I'd made.  The place was.. to use an old phrase... as quiet as a tomb.  But today I'm finding several threads that peak my interest.. this being one of them.

 

Must See To Believe is my user name here... I don't really know why I made it up.  I am a firm believer of the supernatural / paranormal for the sheer reason that I've had too many experiences of my own to deny the fact that contact with some form of entity has been made. 

 

I used to have a gift... (read my byline to understand it) .. of seeing things, feeling things .. and apparently helping people cross over.  One night as I was lying in bed, I woke my husband up and asked him if he could see anything inside the closet... the double bi-fold doors were wide open but the room was dark with little ambient light.  He said no but knowing my gift, he asked me what I was seeing.  I told him I saw a black figure standing in the closet.  The closet was very shallow and the doors almost brushed the hanging clothes when you opened and closed them... but this figure was standing where the clothes should be.  I could see the outline of the lighter clothes to the right and left of this figure and I could see the white slelf that the closet bar hung from... but again, this figure stood where the clothes and shelf should be and was completely black... and I was terrified.  I lay there and watched it until it finally faded away... I have no idea how long it was there. 

 

The next weeks I thought about it and pondered this gift I had and I prayed that God would remove it from me.  I no longer wanted to be able to see such things.  And pretty much like the turning off of a light... it was gone.

 

I've had a few experiences since then:  felt someone push me in the middle of my back with one finger...  saw a lampshade that was screwed down tightly suddenly tilt as far as it could...  saw a chain hanging from a ceiling fan swing wildly as if someone had slapped at it with their hand.   All of these experiences were at my dad and stepmother's house which has always been very active.   My stepmother was dwelling on one certain argument that she and her mother (who had passed away the year before) had had and was suddenly slapped across her face.  My grandfather lived with us for a few months and one day began batting at the air in front of him with his cane and telling my grandmother, Edna, to leave him alone. But I haven't felt or seen anything like I had 20 years prior... when I passed on having what might have been an exceptional gift.

 

My husband and I recently moved in with his mother in her three story house that she and hubby's dad built from the ground up.  His dad passed away at the age of 90 this past April 1st.  He always said he only wanted to make it to 90 and then he'd be happy to go.  And he was always such a prankster that we actually had a laugh at him passing on April Fool's Day... it was something he definitely would have done for the sheer hell of it. 

 

We sleep in his room.  We sleep in his bed... only it's not his matresses, but it is still filled with his furniture.  I feel him here... and I think I've seen him.  I was sitting on the bed and my husband was standing at the left corner of the bed...when he moved away I saw a full size apparition... totally gray .. standing there... then it disappeared.  It didn't fade away... like disambiguation or an afterimage... it was just gone.  I've sat here on the bed with the tablet on my lap and saw a gray shape to the right of me .. not quite peripherally.. it was there... but the second I moved my eyes to see it face on, it was gone.

 

My husband grew up with many, many house cats... all of them extremely loved and well-cared for.  We feel them jump on the bed...  our cats are no where around. 

 

I most definitely believe...  but I want to see it... to practically feel it.. .without being terrified of the experience like I was before.  I'm afraid because I disassociated myself with it years before, that it may never happen.  

 

So maybe my username should actually be Must See AGAIN To Believe. 

[jimmary]

Ravus, it's a big rush for me when I'm in the moment of experience, but too many of my experiences were realized after the fact.  I wish I could have been keenly aware that all of the apparitions I saw where NOT someone standing before me.  Still, the overall experience is a big adrenaline rush to me

Must-See, I enjoy hearing of those types of experiences.  Sometimes I wish I had a "gift" that allowed me to communicate or see spirits/apparitions in some way.  All of my experiences were by chance, as far as I know.

[faustjonson]

One thing I know for sure is that we don't know anything about the world that surrounds us. We just make suggestions and try to find reasonable explanations for what we see. But those things might be just beyond our understanding.

[nq13]

Thank you faustjopnson, I agree with you. And thank you everybody else. I haven't been to GV for awhile and all of your feedback was exactly what I needed.

I Want To Believe

Natasha