
Thermal Imaging Cameras
#1
Posted 08 February 2010 - 01:43 PM
#2
Posted 08 February 2010 - 03:40 PM
But to date I have captured absolutely zero when it comes to any activity related to paranormal investigating. Unless you count the faulty circuit breaker I found generating excessive heat in a client's electric service entrance.
#3
Posted 08 February 2010 - 11:06 PM
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#4
Posted 08 February 2010 - 11:19 PM
#5
Posted 10 February 2010 - 09:38 AM
#6
Posted 15 July 2010 - 10:55 PM
http://okcgc.net/?page_id=343
Here are some examples of why sensor resolution is important:

and another

and one more:

There are an enormous amount of things to take into consideration before purchasing a thermal imager. Not only detector resolution, but refresh rates, FOV, focus ability, spatial resolution (mRad), and thermal sensitivity (NETD rating) are all factors that can significantly affect the picture. There is a bit of study to be done if you want to purchase in imager that will fit your needs.
About your needs, lol. These units WILL NOT detect free-space temperature anomalies. Only surface temperatures. You might be able to detect something "touching" a trigger object and changing it's temperature, but you will never see a ghost floating through a hall. Secondary surface anomalies only. Certain organic or carbon gasses have the ability
to block the tranmissivity of objects behind them, and I suppose this would be an exception to the free-space rule, but that supposes that such gases are present and of a paranormal origin. What else will it detect that would be salient to paranormal research? Intrusion into area (animal or person) as well as above mentioned drafts and air leaks.
It is a handy piece of equipment to have, and I love mine (FLIR Thermacam B2), but I honestly don't ever believe I will see a ghost with it. Tactile trigger object temp manipulation is the best I can hope for in that regards. Too many people simply want to emulate their onscreen heroes without a second thought to the applicability of the technology they use (or misuse). BTW, I also use my FLIR for work (police) as well as sasquatchin', so it does have other uses.
Regards,
Andy
PS. For thermal imagers that use micro or mini SD cards to save images to, this *might* work to transmit the video. No guarantees... see link below
http://www.gearfuse....eo-out-adapter/
#7
Posted 16 July 2010 - 10:08 AM
That said though, if all you want to do is use it to ghost hunt, save your money and buy a dog instead. I stand by my earlier statement, still nothing paranormal with my FLIR....
#8
Posted 16 July 2010 - 01:22 PM
Perhaps I should clarify my earlier post. I came across more negative than I intended. I do have a FLIR system ($3500 worth) and I do think the money was well spent. I have done numerous contract jobs for people scanning homes, etc. and actually have come close to the thing paying for itself. If I had it to do over again I would still buy it. Andy and a couple others are correct, don't waste money on a cheap low resolution unit, save up and go with a good quality piece of equipment.
That said though, if all you want to do is use it to ghost hunt, save your money and buy a dog instead. I stand by my earlier statement, still nothing paranormal with my FLIR....
Didn't take it negatively at all. You are correct, I have not yet captured anything paranormal, and if I do, I think I will be surprised.
A lot of folks want one simply because they see them on tv, and tv personalities mislead them into thinking that they show many paranormal captures. All of what they capture is reflective, rodent/animal, or macro temp. anomaly based, nothing paranormal.
That being said, this clip captured from ARG paranormal leaves me scratching my head. This would certainly be in opposition to the free space anomaly statement I made above. I do not know what to make of it, except to say that it shouldn't be possible. Almost has to be a person, although I don't know what is shielding most of their radiated heat...
http://www.argparano.....gine room.mpg
It was captured during an invest. on the RMS Queen Mary. Pay attention to the "figure" moving on the catwalk.
Regards
Andy
#9
Posted 16 July 2010 - 03:35 PM
On television these things are a great tool, namely because it's so easy to pass off staged footage as unexplainable or paranormal. Smoke and mirrors, and great editing room work. It's really no wonder I don't watch any of the paranormal shows anymore. It's all clever acting and even more clever post production. The equipment they use - I have no use for any of it. When I started I jumped in on the assumption I needed all the same equipment - IR cameras, recorders, miles of hard wire, and all the various meters they play with every week. As my journey into research deepened, 99% of that equipment wound up in a trunk in my basement. Today, my initial investigation kit is no bigger than a shoe box, and my biggest expense is just the for batteries I need.
Is anybody up for making a video explaining what this type of equipment actually does, and why it is such a important piece of equipment for "television" ghost hunting?
#10
Posted 16 July 2010 - 06:12 PM
Is anybody up for making a video explaining what this type of equipment actually does, and why it is such a important piece of equipment for "television" ghost hunting?
I once kicked around the idea, then gave up figuring it was not worth the effort. People will believe whatever they want. And in the public eye, mjority rules, right or wrong, even if the majority is jumpng off a bridge.....
I figured the time I spent would be wasted considering I would be one investigator out there debunking 90% of what every ghost buster "knows" is how it's done because they saw it on TV. You're better off talking to a tree stump. At least the tree stump just stands there, it doesn't argue with you about some half baked idea!
#11
Posted 16 July 2010 - 06:51 PM
Is anybody up for making a video explaining what this type of equipment actually does, and why it is such a important piece of equipment for "television" ghost hunting?
I once kicked around the idea, then gave up figuring it was not worth the effort. People will believe whatever they want. And in the public eye, mjority rules, right or wrong, even if the majority is jumpng off a bridge.....
Aint that the truth...
Andy
#12
Posted 04 August 2010 - 06:57 AM
90% of the time on the tv shows I've seen, if they get anything at all it's just wierd little blobs in strange places that could be anything. They do often tag those as evidence but I've never seen them call it a ghost.
#13
Posted 04 August 2010 - 03:35 PM
Consider, if you placeyour hand on the table and view it with a camera, what you see is what is there. take your hand away and the image clealy shows that. But view the same scene under thermal imaging and you will "see" your hand print even though you move away. Any form of radiant heat will cause a similar effect. Thus you need to understand the forces at work otherwise you will be getting a lot of false positives! Knowing how thermal imaging operates is vital if you intend to pursue that area of research.
#14
Posted 18 August 2010 - 06:48 PM

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#15
Posted 18 August 2010 - 09:06 PM
The equipment they use - I have no use for any of it. When I started I jumped in on the assumption I needed all the same equipment - IR cameras, recorders, miles of hard wire, and all the various meters they play with every week. As my journey into research deepened, 99% of that equipment wound up in a trunk in my basement. Today, my initial investigation kit is no bigger than a shoe box, and my biggest expense is just the for batteries I need.
Hi gentlemen,
Been a while since I posted, and I apologize, but I've been busy reviewing about four investigations worth of material. I'd like to ask both Dave and CaveRat what tools they feel are essential to their kit, since I too have recently come to the conclusion stated above. My group has 5-10k worth of equipment, but the best evidence I capture seems to come from my 35$ RCA recorder. I've gotten many EVP's from it (which I'll post upon request). I'm still looking for a good digital camera and pass through filter set-up that will allow me to take photos in the UV spectrum, as my Sony doesn't seem to be capturing much in the way of evidence. Even our 1k DVR setup has failed to net any evidence on about ten investigations. I'm convinced that big money toys aren't necessary for high quality evidence. So what do you gentlemen take to an investigation?
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