OMPRDave, on May 7 2011, 08:49 AM, said:
I disagree completely...nothing is more frustrating than having to sit in a room with people using K2 meters, ghost boxes, and partially dismantled flashlights trying to talk to ghosts all because they saw it on tv. From experience they don't listen to reason when it's explained that all those things are useless gimmicks, and the answers they give are almost always typically supported because this groups uses them on tv, or they paid through the nose to watch these tv stars employ the same junk. There is no distinction for a lot of people that tv and real life are absolutely two different things.
There seem to be a few different opinions out there on what is the right way to do ghost research. That means that like other fields of study in the early phases one of two things will happen:
1. One side will come up with evidence that makes their way the accepted way, or
2. All but one side will suffer from a complete lack of proof that they've found anything, making the remaining the accepted way by default.
I'm not talking about "proof" but PROOF. Good solid evidence that makes non-believers in the paranormal want to conduct their OWN experiments to see for themselves. This is part of the scientific method they taught us in 3rd grade... an experiment must be repeatable.
As I see it now, nobody
is performing repeatable, controlled
scientific experiments and finding any evidence whatsoever because it's not possible. There are way too many variables involved in doing experiments of this type in the locations that paranormal researchers are working in, and when you take it to a lab you find nothing.
I'm not defending their techniques or the techniques of anyone, that was not the point of any of my posts. My posts were intended to open eyes to the idea that nobody's techniques are scientifically valid in a traditional sense, so to say that one side is "doing it wrong" is absurd.
To completely dismiss the value of these shows in getting new people involved in the field is ridiculous IMO. To roll your eyes when you see those people with their K2's and their Ghost Boxes showing up is ELITISM plain and simple. You "know what you're doing" they "don't" and you are not willing to present any conclusive evidence that your way is the right way.
Anywho, I don't want this to degenerate into an argument so I will bow out now. Just one question, though...
Why would you be researching with people whose methods you don't approve of?
There are literally thousands of places you can go that don't have anyone else at them on a given night...