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CaveRat, on Jul 27 2009, 06:57 AM, said:

The two are incompatable. Wicca believes in multiple gods and godesses; Christianity believes in One God, represented by the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. On that there is no compromise possible, the scripture is very plain.

Now regarding the church doctines that is open to discussion. I am not Catholic, don't ascribe to all the ritual and order they do, The pope is a mere human, a humanly elected leader of their order. Mary was the mother of Christ, also human. The saints and church officials are all human. And all share one human trait, all are sinners and except for their belief in Christ are condemned to hell. And that is the factor which assures that Christian salvation. If one doesn't like the Catholic doctrine, there are others to choose from.

Pont is the core Christian belief in Christ is what saves us, not saying a chant, bowing down , or whether we sprinkkle, dunk, or immerse for baptism. Thus there will be Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterian, Methodists, and a host of other believers saved. If one of these denominations doesn't suit your style of worship, fine, choose another. Christ said, "Believe in Me and you will be saved." He didn't say a thing about which church you should join. But He was very clear which God you should believe in.

This. A Christian is a Christian is a Christian. All Christians believe in pretty much the same thing. The only thing that divides us is tradition, prefered method of prayer, and some tiny details (which differ from person to person, even in the same congregation). Basically, if you don't like your flavor of Christianity, try another. They're all the same.

It sounds like you like Christianity, but you don't like the Catholic clergy or your particular community. Heck, I agree with CaveRat: I don't think priests, cardinals, popes, etc. are anything spectacular. They're sinners just like the rest of us. That's why I don't consider myself Catholic. I have more of a Protestant mentality. But if I ever fall in love with a Catholic girl, I'd be willing to convert in a hearbeat if it meant a stable marriage. The clergy is just another tradition, if you think about it. If you convert to some form of Protestantism, you'll be praying to the same God, with the same Book, with the same everything, except you probably won't be in the same community or have the same clergy (which sounds like what you're looking for). Try being a Protestant and see if it floats your boat.

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Shawn333, on Jul 31 2009, 06:23 PM, said:

Hmm...it sounds to me like there are still things about your old faith that you like and don't want to leave, but your church wasn't very accepting of who you are. Have you ever thought about looking into groups for gay and lesbian Christians? It often surprises a lot of people to know there are such things. They may not be very catholic per se, but still might be what you're looking for. Also though I don't know much about the particular denomination, I do know that most Episcopal Churches are now ordaining gay and lesbian ministers. I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds by suggesting religions, but just thought I'd throw out the suggestions as things that might be what you're looking for.


As for the thread subject of Wiccan Christians, I once lived with one for a couple of years. Really though I considered her more of a Wiccan who just didn't want to totally discard her Catholic faith that she was brought up in. In her case she almost seemed to want to still cling to it out of a superstitious fear not to. I noticed most of her Wiccan friends were ex-Catholics, or Catholics who were brought up in that religion but just didn't find it satisfying for whatever reasons.

I think when we ask whether it's possible for someone to be a Wiccan Christian, you have to consider what the person thinks about each religion who answers. By most Christians own beliefs they would say no. It makes no theological sense and would be contradictory. By most Wiccan's beliefs I think they would also say no. But if someone doesn't hold to the same dogmatic and rigid ideas about what Christianity and Wicca are, and they want to mix the two, then of course it's possible. They just won't be very orthodox in either one, but maybe they'll find a spiritual path that benefits them.

Once you say "orthodox" though, that would seem to also apply to most religious people, who claim to adhere to one religion or the other, but seemingly ignore vast swaths of the teachings of their chosen religion for whatever reason. The only difference being that in this case of Wicca Christians, the unorthodoxy in question is that they mix beliefs from these two religions.

Seems pretty much the same to me anyway... just MHO of course.