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#76 LycanGhost

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 12:38 PM

Amen to that. Also, another good auther to look into is Scott Cunningham. I've got one of his books here and it's fairly interesting.


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Posted 17 June 2015 - 02:57 PM

Of course, while reading these books, you should keep in mind that they are likely from the point-of-view of the author, and may not be the consensus of many who practice the faith...actually speaking with a few people (but not necessarily from the same coven) regarding Wicca might give you a more over-all understanding...or, fill in more of the pieces of the puzzle.


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Posted 18 June 2015 - 11:01 PM

TBH, I see it as just being many pathways to the same place, and I respect others' beliefs/religion as the path that's best for them.

 

 

AS long as they are not trying to kill me for something I believe or not believe......

 

Then it's personal!


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Posted 19 June 2015 - 11:12 AM

Aw drat, you ruined my plans... J/k. Live and let live, and don't try to convert me.


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Posted 24 June 2015 - 02:30 AM

AS long as they are not trying to kill me for something I believe or not believe......

 

Then it's personal!

 

 

As far as I know, I've never heard of any instances where a Wiccan (or witch) has killed anybody for not believing as they do.  That's something some Christians and Muslims did.  And sadly, still do.


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Posted 24 June 2015 - 02:50 PM

 

AS long as they are not trying to kill me for something I believe or not believe......

 

Then it's personal!

 

 

As far as I know, I've never heard of any instances where a Wiccan (or witch) has killed anybody for not believing as they do.  That's something some Christians and Muslims did.  And sadly, still do.

 

 

 

That was a tongue in cheek reference to what's going on in the world right now.....

 

 

It wasn't aimed at Wiccans.


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Posted 25 June 2015 - 03:33 AM

 

That was a tongue in cheek reference to what's going on in the world right now.....

 

 

It wasn't aimed at Wiccans.

 

 

I know...it's fine.  We're fine.  But, it's been going on for a lot longer than 'right now'.


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Posted 02 July 2015 - 11:51 AM

http://paganwiccan.a...istianWicca.htm <an article I found on About.com that may help. And yes, I do go through About.com for helpful info, usually because I'm semi-anti-social, don't like discussing belief systems irl, and live in a smallish conservative college town, and don't know many pagans/heathens/what have you. Well, outside of here and Facebook.


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Posted 03 July 2015 - 04:53 PM

I am now on page 219 and realizing it is a lot to remember.   Phases of the moon and planets and star signs. WOW.  We have a Wicca store here so I think I'll check it out next week after pay.


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Posted 04 July 2015 - 04:33 PM

It's always helpful to take notes to help yourself to remember. I know I need to start doing that for myself... And actually put it in the notebook I've got for this. (Not bought, but rescued from work a bit ago when the liltwit decided they didn't want it anymore.)


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Posted 13 July 2015 - 06:00 PM

Today I found out that one of the women in our building is a witch.  I thought this was great news and I would be able to ask her questions but I'm not sure.  She keeps it quiet that she is a witch.  I know from reading that some people do still keep it quiet but it makes me think twice about talking with her.  I don't want to have to be looking over my shoulder when I am talking with her.  I did go into her office to show her the book I was reading but when one of her co workers knocked on the door the look on her face made me uncomfortable.  As I said I don't feel I can talk to her now.  Wicca is so positive I don't understand why she doesn't want people to know.  I am sure no one would treat her differently.  

 

I am finding strange for me is that it is left up the to the person themselves on how to go about being a witch. 

 

I was remembering back to the 90s and a co worker I had asking me then if I was a witch.  I recalled when being upset with my then boyfriend his football team always lost.  Maybe it has always been there.


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Posted 13 July 2015 - 07:04 PM

It really depends on how her other coworkers would react. I know I wasn't open with three of mine about being more pagan-leaning because one was a born-again christian, and the other two were church going, and I honestly don't think they'd be entirely welcome of my leanings. Though, I did occasionally drop hints in telling them a few tidbits of pagan-related history on the days of the week. Not sure if they entirely picked up on it or just thought I really liked trivia.

 

As for the boyfriend and his football team, it's possible.


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Posted 21 July 2015 - 12:20 PM

Today I found out that one of the women in our building is a witch.  I thought this was great news and I would be able to ask her questions but I'm not sure.  She keeps it quiet that she is a witch.  I know from reading that some people do still keep it quiet but it makes me think twice about talking with her.  I don't want to have to be looking over my shoulder when I am talking with her.  I did go into her office to show her the book I was reading but when one of her co workers knocked on the door the look on her face made me uncomfortable.  As I said I don't feel I can talk to her now.  Wicca is so positive I don't understand why she doesn't want people to know.  I am sure no one would treat her differently.  

 

I am finding strange for me is that it is left up the to the person themselves on how to go about being a witch. 

 

I was remembering back to the 90s and a co worker I had asking me then if I was a witch.  I recalled when being upset with my then boyfriend his football team always lost.  Maybe it has always been there.

Some people don't feel they should discuss their faith because it's personal to them.  They aren't the type that go around talking about it (which is frowned upon in many workplaces, but not really prohibited outright). If you would like to try to ask this woman more about her beliefs, maybe you should ask her out for coffee, and get to know her as a person first, instead of a source of information.

The term 'witch' still has a lot of negative images and stereotypes connected to it, and (speaking from experience with some witches I know) they won't openly acknowledge their faith until they feel comfortable with you. Take the time to get to know her first.  If she opens up to you, great - if not, what have you lost? Nothing.


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Posted 21 July 2015 - 01:05 PM

It really depends on how her other coworkers would react. I know I wasn't open with three of mine about being more pagan-leaning because one was a born-again christian, and the other two were church going, and I honestly don't think they'd be entirely welcome of my leanings. Though, I did occasionally drop hints in telling them a few tidbits of pagan-related history on the days of the week. Not sure if they entirely picked up on it or just thought I really liked trivia.

I used to work with 2 professed Atheists, who picked on others of faith because it made them feel more intelligent to argue about religion.  I've actually seen them on lunch breaks, sitting in their car, cross-referencing the bible with what they could find online.  All for the sake of picking on somebody else. It's a wonder management never gave them the boot (I know management was aware this was going on, but nothing seemed to be done to stop this harrassment). Even though I am not a Christian (I was raised a Roman Catholic...in the Irish sense of the word...yikes!), I would back up the one Jehovah's Witness they enjoyed picking on the most, mostly defending his right to believe whatever he wants without fear of being persecuted for his beliefs. I don't believe what the JWs believe, but I believe they have a right to their faith, just as everybody else.

When the Atheists would ask me what I believed, I would tell them that it's 1) none of their business, and 2) not open for discussion in the workplace. They tried simple psychological tactics ('oh, you're ashamed'...or, 'you know you're wrong') to try to goad me into discussing my beliefs, and I told them it won't work.

On the other side of the coin, I've had other coworkers who were devout Christians, and would openly discuss religion in the workplace. And they know/knew that I was not a Christian (one of them even shook her bible in my face! Really!). I would even offer one of them a ride home after work (quite past where I lived, but I was being nice). Asked me not to smoke while he was in my truck (what? telling me I can't have a cig after work in my own truck?), and I agreed but told him as soon as I got to his house, he needed to get out because I was gonna light up a smoke. But there was this Christian, taking advantage of my kindness...and I let it slide.  One day, as I was heading into work, I saw this coworker in the parking lot.  As I was about to say 'hello', he pointed a finger at me and said 'You are going to hell! You do not accept Jesus as your...blah blah blah'. Well - needless to say, that guy walked home from that point on.

 

I guess what I'm getting at is this: the workplace is absolutely no place to be discussing religion in any manner. It is a touchy subject, and unless you are really comfortable with the possibility of things getting ugly quick, I would keep it out of the workplace completely.


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Posted 21 July 2015 - 04:50 PM

She has been more open.  What confuses me is that she will begin talking about it when she knows that people are close by.  Maybe she needs to realize the people she works with aren't going to make fun of her.  If anything they will be interested.  People know that I am reading in regards to the Wiccan religion and they have no problem.  I've told them it is positive.  I've explained what they see on tv isn't the way it is.  Hollywood isn't reality.  They seem o.k.


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