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Poll: Do you think it is right to start a club in a Haunted Location or should the spirits be left to their privacy?

Do you think it is right to start a club in a Haunted Location or should the spirits be left to their privacy?

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#1 DarkMasterChaos

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Posted 19 September 2005 - 09:43 AM

If you are from Ohio, and especially if you are from Cleveland, you have probally heard of Franklin Castle, if you have you should knoww that something is happening there, someone decided to start a club/restraunt in it, what do you think of that?
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Posted 19 September 2005 - 03:59 PM

If you are from Ohio, and especially if you are from Cleveland, you have probally heard of Franklin Castle, if you have you should knoww that something is happening there, someone decided to start a club/restraunt in it, what do you think of that?

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Iam from Painesville, Ohio. My girlriend and myself visted Franklins Castle last year and actually got to meet the new owner Charles Mislap. It was under consruction at the time that we desided to pop in. He was holding a open house so people can see what has been done to the castle. We did talk to him briefly and asked him if he believed in the paranormal to be lirkeing in the castle. He kinda laugh at us and he told us that he does not believe in ghosts. Well when we left I turned to Julie and told her that he is in for a rude awakening. He will soon find out about his new house guests. Time will tell. Dave
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Posted 20 September 2005 - 09:25 AM

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Posted 20 September 2005 - 09:46 AM

I too, have been to the castle... although not inside yet. :clap:

I was just there last week. I think it's very interesting that when you visit the franklin castle club website, they make it look and sound like this fabulous place... but in all actuality it's nothing more after all this time of "renovation" than an overgrown eyesore. Of course I can see through the overgrown brush and weeds, boarded up windows and general look of abandonment... but to anybody else that does not know the history of this place, they'd think it was a dump. I have an "IN" with someone at the Cleveland Historical Society and the word is that after the first "open house" of sorts, the new owner never returned. I find that very interesting indeed!

Should this incredibly historic, incredibly haunted place be made into a club? I don't see why someone shouldn't "try"... it's gonna be more fun watching the spirits stifle the progress. I think we're already seeing that happen. ;)

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Posted 20 September 2005 - 03:47 PM

Andi, What do you mean he never returned? Charles never came back to his club? From what he said, it is suppose to open sometime in the fall. And it will be designed for a dinner type club and a bed and breakfest. He is still thinking about having a few rooms available for poor people like me! LOL! He's not too sure on that one. I would love to stay there just one night. That castle has so much history behind it and so much to still discover. :) Dave
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Posted 21 September 2005 - 04:55 PM

OMG no... it's nowhere ready to be open for ANYTHING other than a haunted house attraction at Halloween. It's THAT bad.

The windows still have black boards covering them. The brush and "lawn" are so overgrown they resemble the Munster's house from the tv show. I was told that after the initial "meet & greet" that was held after he bought the place, that he never returned.

That's coming from the person that works for the Cleveland Historical Society. Trust me... anybody with any sense could drive by that place and tell that nobody has been anywhere near it in a very long time.... unless you count the spirits that you can FEEL watching you from the castle. Very eerie... and I don't get creeped out easily.

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Posted 22 September 2005 - 03:44 PM

Andi, So now Iam wondering why he booged from the place that he bought. That does not make any sense to me at all. When we were in there they had alot of the rooms under consrtuction. He said that he wanted to start from the top first and then work his way down to the main floor. They were working on the ballroom when we were there. We were taking video and pics and he came up to us and told us to stop. And I looked at him and said who in the hell are you? And his reply was "I am the new owner of Franklins Castle." Boy, did I apoligized pretty quickly. I just wonder if something happend to him while he was in there. I"ll bet money on that one. Dave
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Posted 27 September 2005 - 04:46 PM

I have no idea what happened to him..... but I do know for sure that there has been no dsign of life there for a VERY long time and if you call with interest in becoming a member of the "Club", you'll never get a return phone call.

Makes you wonder...

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 05:28 AM

I think it's a darn shame that a peice of Cleveland's history is aloud to sit there empty like that. The rumour about the "club" has been going round for a couple of years now. The B&B idea won't work because, the Castle is in an awful nieghborhood. Who would pay to sleep there (except us ghost hunters)?

In my opinion it should be purchased by the historical society, and opened to the public as a museum, and they could also hold ghost tours at night.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 01:02 PM

I agree that it should be opened for tours... it's one of the most prominant pieces of architecture in Cleveland. Many people do not know that there are tunnels leading from the underground of this house to places all over Cleveland, including under Lake Erie itself and even into the bowels of Cleveland Metro General Hospital. Many of the tunnels I'm sure have collapsed, or are unsafe to say the least, but to know that they exist is way cool.

Who knows... maybe the Historical Society will purchase it one day. From what I know of Historical Societies in general though, they don't operate on much more than a shoestring budget. The City of Cleveland would have to be approached to buy it with a business plan to back it up to offset the huge cost. I should do a tax search to see if this property is behind on it's taxes. From the looks of it, there's a very good chance.
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 04:18 PM

I should buy the castle and make it my own little playground!! Oh Charles got into something that he could'nt finish! What a shame! That is truely amazing building! Dave
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 05:45 PM

Oh Dear, your own little playground??? Honey, you wake up and take pictures for no reason at 2 and 3 a.m.....not unless you take me dancing in the ball room...lol! What a shame though! Dave and I had an absolutely wonderful time visiting the castle. I can only image how beautiful it would have been in it full glory days. Yeah, I would love to own something like that to, not for my own playground, as my sweet, darling Dave puts it, but to restore to it's natural beauty and investigate it and open it for a paranormal society of sorts. I really wonder what happened to Milsap...was it money? or was it the ghosts? Charles did mention an incident to us about a hankerchief that he did think might be paranormal, but he then he said he didn't believe in ghosts...so he was kinda of a hypocrite....kinda like finishing his work on the castle....said he was going to do it...never did! I just hope the next owner follows through, I would hate to see the building in ruins and have to be demolished because it's beyond repair! Julie
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Posted 03 October 2005 - 06:57 PM

I swear, if I ever come into a few million bucks, I'm buying the Castle, and you're all invited over for a ghost hunt. But in that neighborhood, it's not the ghosts you have to worry about.
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 08:30 AM

I think it's a darn shame that a peice of Cleveland's history is aloud to sit there empty like that. The rumour about the "club" has been going round for a couple of years now. The B&B idea won't work because, the Castle is in an awful nieghborhood. Who would pay to sleep there (except us ghost hunters)?

In my opinion it should be purchased by the historical society, and opened to the public as a museum, and they could also hold ghost tours at night.





You are completely right and Charlie is a very close friend of mine. I do not agree with his "CLUB" ideas and I could tell you A LOT of stories about his plans that are not going anywhere. Email me. :headbang:

You would be surprised to know the truth...

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Posted 24 August 2006 - 09:39 AM

:headbang: :Spaz: :hug: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost: http://franklincastleclub.com/ Just some info for everyone....http://www.prairieghosts.com/oh-frank.html some more.... http://www.ghosts.org/franklin.html

I am SOOO jealous! I would love to see this place in person....I don't blame all of you for wanting to spend time there, it is a gorgeous place! Good luck with winning that few million Duke! If you buy it I will definitely have to come to the party!!!

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