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#16 jimmary

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 08:03 AM

I agree witht the comparison, logan. I ended up liking the show anyway.
Ghost Mine was another surprise for me. From the commericals I thought it was going to be stupid and gimmicky. I ended up not missing an episode. Yes, it grabbed me from both angles: investingating and mining.

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 07:13 PM

I haven't been able to find it. Going nuts!
Right this way to my haunted space.

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 07:53 PM

Hi there,

It's been a while, I just wanted to thank you for all the help you provided while I was putting together my diff amp project. I did settle on a design, a 1000X diff amp in an enclosure with a rechargeable battery pack. Everything resides in a largish project box. This device will operate stand alone or will output to a scope.

In stand alone mode there are two sets of windings, capacitively coupled directly into the diff amp. Between the windings is a third winding, outputting a quasi-sine wave running at about 125kHz. I'm using the switching supply as the source for the driven element. The display is an old Ramsey kit EMF detector. A bunch of LED's that are driven by the diff amp output. The device works nicely. It will detect me within 6 feet so it needs to be in an empty room to work well. The internal coils can be replaced with antennas placed at the corners of a room, the driven element sits roughly between them. This also seems to work nicely. Results so far are inconclusive, it's difficult to say one way or another if my device is actually detecting anything truly unusual. Time will tell. Thanks again for the help.

About paranormal TV, what a bunch of BS. Shows like "My Ghost Story Caught On Camera" can be expected to be silly. One piece of dust floating across a camera lens is predictably Aunt Selma. The show does have entertainment value.

It's another think when Zak produces video with illuminated dust and claims that this is the presence of a spirit. He proceeds to "debunk" this as evidence of genuine paranormal activity. After watching hours and hours of video, Zak should know better.

I did do an experiment with video orbs. I ran my video rig with the video light above the lens. In an hour I caught dozens of "Spirit Orbs", pieces of floating dust close to the lens. Some of these "Orbs" were interesting. Different colors, some blinked. I can only assume that the blinking orbs were actually flat pieces of floating debris that were revolving in front of the lens. When I removed the light from the rig and placed it on a lightstand a few feet away, guess what? No orbbies.. Surprise..

A genuine ghost hunting show could never really be done. Nobody could collect that much evidence in a day or two to fill up a TV show with interesting content.

My guess is that the endless K2 hits you see are nothing but two way radios keyed safely off camera, a few feet away.

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The important fact most overlook regarding any posted evidence is how it is validated. These days any evidence without collaborating support is worthless. Pictures can be faked by any novice well enough to fool most people. EVPs can be hoaxed. And don't even get me started on the outright schlok such as Ghost Boxes and KII meters as communication devices.

Consider as an example one of the best EVPs I have ever captured. By itself it would be great class A evidence. but also it could be duplicated by a good sound engineer as a hoax. What sets it apart is the backstory; 5 witnesses were present, all can be accounted for and were no where near the recorder. And along with the EVP a lamp was picked from a dresser and thrown against a wall. The audio track also captured those sounds, plus the fact the witnesses, upon hearing the sounds, were on the scene and took photos of the aftermath within 30 seconds. The time base verifies the continuity of time. The only one present at the scene at the time was a child who obviously did not hoax this. First of all, she was too young to understand all the details and secondly the audio recorders / amplifiers were sensitive enough she could not have moved without us recording the sounds. All witnesses and investigators also verified no trickery; no hidden lines, or other stuff of this nature. Since 5 of us were present we served as a check on each other. I

I point this out to show that it is not just the EVP, or in other cases the picture, that provides the evidence. Rather it is how it all fits together, how various facts work to validate each other that strengthens the evidence. A single piece of data does little, but when combined with all the facts is what provides the validation needed to provide good evidence. TV shows seldom take the time to build that level of detail. They simply use the spook factor to sell shows.

And BTW, as an aside, the EVP event was not done in the dark while stumbling around. Rather the child was asleep in her room with a night light on, and the recording operation conducted from another room with full lighting. Unlike the TV shows that seem to promote fumbling around in the dark.



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Posted 01 November 2013 - 02:10 AM

I honestly think, that in some cases, the people involved with these shows started out with the best of intentions. After years of spending time and money and perhaps ending up with nothing to show for it, they may have become jaded. The opportunity came their way to do a tv show, and get paid for it. They jumped at the chance.

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 09:44 AM

Wasn't this trend predictable? These networks have a lot of cash tied up in these shows and they, by definition, will follow ratings and sponsors. The locations have shifted from private residential locations to business or tourist locations that basically get at least a 20 minute commercial for their venues. As in any venture, all you have to to is follow the money to see where it is going. It is almost impossibe to imagine a real investigation anymore to be seen in prime time. As everyone knows, a good investigation is 95% methodical, tedious work. Like that is going to make "good" television.

Not exactly sure how a network vetts the potential investigative team, but you can be sure that they are seen through media filters. And whatever intentions the group may have will be modified to suit the production company in the quest for ratings and ad dollars.` That being said, these shows are revenue platforms and thats really all they are intended to be. So, enjoy the locations and the antics and the occasional paranormal event.

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