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#1 MoonChild

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 09:05 AM

Reincarnation - one concept that has interested mankind since they came into existence! One topic, which has helped religion evolve. One topic which would continue to intrest people eternally.

Do you believe in reincarnation? If yes, do you have any plausible explanations? If no, why don't you believe? Or are you somewhere in bettween?

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 11:35 AM

This is an appropriate topic since yesterday Christianity celebrated Jesus' resurrection.

I believe we only get a single mortal experience. We did live as spirits before we were born. In that spirit life we made friends, etc. Some of our dejavu experiences in the here and now are glimpses back into our pre-earth life. I also believe the spirit does continue to live after the mortal shell dies. During the resurrection, our spirits will gain an immortal physical body never to die again.

I don't know if our immortal bodies will be made of the same material as our mortal shell (Jesus' tomb was empty, and his immortal body bore the marks of the crucifixion) or if different matter will be used (what of those who are cremated, etc?).

Of course the common view on reincarnation (as opposed to resurrection) is that it is the same spirit taking on a different mortal shell each time around.

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 05:04 PM

I believe that we have a choice...

We come back, or do not come back as we choose to do.

Just from my own personal experience I do believe in it.

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I admit that swords and hair color do not positive proof create... (chuckle) but along with the other wonders of otherworldly delight that have taken place in my lifetime it's been enough for me.
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Posted 17 April 2006 - 06:33 PM

Ya i certainly think this is a great topic to talk about ... sometimes i get feelings llike i been here long time ago.. but dunno .. watching unsolved Mysteries one lady said she had dreams of a lil girl that was to be here she went to every place that was in her dream .. the house the church and the cemetary it was freaky but i believe it could be true.
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Posted 18 April 2006 - 05:41 AM

I agree with Iron Bess. I think we have a choice as to whether we come back or not. But sometimes I think the choice may not be yours. Like they are saying, "go back and try again.", ya know.

But there are just certain things I know that I shouldn't just know. I think everyone has that.
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Posted 18 April 2006 - 11:17 PM

This is a very intriguing topic and one I've been contemplating a lot lately.

I do believe in reincarnation but I am unsure of the complexities of which that I believe in.

For me, it's very interesting to listen to others thoughts on why they believe they were reincarnated. I will add a few of my own here.

More times than I can count, I've had visions of myself standing before a window in a Victorian-era house. I'm usually on the second floor. One particularily clear time, I felt literally transported back to that time. I was staying at my aunt's cabin up north (where the woods and air seem to bring out my sensitivities) and I was laying on her couch staring out the window at her birch trees. Suddenly, I was over-come with the feeling that I was looking out at another world - a world in which I was dressed in a Victorian era night gown and staring solemnly out a second floor window at the trees and vacant road. I've had similar experiences like this, though never anything as clear.

It could be that I'm having visions from a past life or it could be a spirit is trying to contact me as this woman that I "become" in these instances is battling very severe emotional troubles and insomnia, always, in these instances. She is either contemplating the sorry state of her life or suicide. Both of these I am, and have been, battling. For a long while.

I feel very silly writing this, but want to get it out: I've wondered about some very, very strange connections that I have (I won't list them here as some are far too personal, relate to other people and are just down-right un-fit to write down for others to see...but, I wrote them down once and all the connections took up pages and pages) to the late actress Jean Harlow. I have no idea if I was her or if I knew her in her life, somehow. But, there are just some very, very strange parallels between her and I. She is also one of two spirits who I have had very emotional encounters with (the other is my uncle John). I was sitting in a parking lot one day feeling very down for some reason and I felt her touch my arm (don't ask me how I knew it was her, but it was). The impression I seemed to get from her spirit was that she "understood" and I'd be o.k. I felt instantly understood and calm after that.

My fiance bought me a blouse of Jean's that he got from a relative of hers. We were the same size, so the blouse fits perfectly, although, I feel very strangely when I've put it on. It almost feels "too close" for comfort when I've worn it. So, I keep it wrapped up and stored in a special spot. When I take it out and hold it, the connection is very prevelent. It's almost too much to be near it...but, it is one of the few things I treasure immensely.

I also have a very deep connection to soldiers, particularily WWII Army soldiers and Vietnam Army and Marine soldiers. My uncle John was a Marine in Vietnam and died there. I have no idea if I was, perhaps, a soldier at some point or if my connection to my uncle is so deep that soldiers feel "safe" contacting me. I very nearly enlisted in the Marines several years back because I felt it was my "duty." No idea why, it didn't feel like a duty to my country, it was something much deeper. It may have been a sub-conscious tribute to my uncle, it may have been more.

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Posted 18 April 2006 - 11:54 PM

Good topic...have been considering this a bit myself recently...i believe in reincarnation..but dont quite understand how the mechanics would work...i have this feeling its somehow involed with a parralell universe type thing..what if we are all living our whole lives, at different stages, and occasionally we connect with something/someone from our future/past selves?? how do we explain that awareness of something we shouldnt know or attraction to someone we have just met??, that feeling of knowing whats going to happen? what if my theory was sort of correct...does it mean if one thing is changed in our earlier history each one after that will be different just because of one momentary 'glitch'-missing a train, taking a wrong turn, not bumping into someone your meant to?? all these and more weird questions going through my head...no wonder it aches!!!!! :ghost:

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Posted 19 April 2006 - 04:49 PM

Good topic...have been considering this a bit myself recently...i believe in reincarnation..but dont quite understand how the mechanics would work...i have this feeling its somehow involed with a parralell universe type thing..what if we are all living our whole lives, at different stages, and occasionally we connect with something/someone from our future/past selves?? how do we explain that awareness of something we shouldnt know or attraction to someone we have just met??, that feeling of knowing whats going to happen? what if my theory was sort of correct...does it mean if one thing is changed in our earlier history each one after that will be different just because of one momentary 'glitch'-missing a train, taking a wrong turn, not bumping into someone your meant to?? all these and more weird questions going through my head...no wonder it aches!!!!! :whee:


Penny:

It is a good parallell to make. our guides might only be those past and furture echoes of ourselves. time is not linear though we have made it thus.

many will tell you Penny that those things the attraction and the awareness are a chemical. i think there's more to it then that..humans release phermones for humans. What about psychic phermones? it is all possible we don't know what does what.

That feeling of knowing I don't know i cannot tell you an answer for that only that I know it happens.

I believe that nothing changes.....we only change them ourselves, and that anything that happens we are seeking as a lesson.

Everything has a lesson. Life is the cruelest Master or Mistress of all but the best one. Tests first lessons after.

Some tests turn out great, others you say what in the turkey and mashed potatoes was I doing?

Anyhow that's my take we do everything.....to ourselves we know it.
Oh and you should read the holographic universe. That will make your head ache more!

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 05:00 AM

Good topic...have been considering this a bit myself recently...i believe in reincarnation..but dont quite understand how the mechanics would work...i have this feeling its somehow involed with a parralell universe type thing..what if we are all living our whole lives, at different stages, and occasionally we connect with something/someone from our future/past selves?? how do we explain that awareness of something we shouldnt know or attraction to someone we have just met??, that feeling of knowing whats going to happen? what if my theory was sort of correct...does it mean if one thing is changed in our earlier history each one after that will be different just because of one momentary 'glitch'-missing a train, taking a wrong turn, not bumping into someone your meant to?? all these and more weird questions going through my head...no wonder it aches!!!!! :)


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It is a good parallell to make. our guides might only be those past and furture echoes of ourselves. time is not linear though we have made it thus.

many will tell you Penny that those things the attraction and the awareness are a chemical. i think there's more to it then that..humans release phermones for humans. What about psychic phermones? it is all possible we don't know what does what.

That feeling of knowing I don't know i cannot tell you an answer for that only that I know it happens.

I believe that nothing changes.....we only change them ourselves, and that anything that happens we are seeking as a lesson.

Everything has a lesson. Life is the cruelest Master or Mistress of all but the best one. Tests first lessons after.

Some tests turn out great, others you say what in the turkey and mashed potatoes was I doing?

Anyhow that's my take we do everything.....to ourselves we know it.
Oh and you should read the holographic universe. That will make your head ache more!

haha...will look for it at the library...and make sure i have a glass of wine to assist me!! it is such an interesting subject...and funny that religions disagree over it so strongly...didnt jesus re-incarnate?? or not because he came back as the same person...then there is that bardo state someone mentioned...maybe he was there...if it lasts 3 days who knows???? ouch, my head!!!

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 05:15 AM

I Do beleive. Not that I have personaly experenced any form of I belong in another time stuff. Unless you can pass of the unshakable beleive I deserve to be rich and am not as I was rich in a past life.

Some people are too old for there years, But some grow out of it, perhaps after a number of years this time round, we forget our past lives? That is why something is familar, but not quite? And why it is Kids that we hear sprouting things from a bygone era??

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 08:15 AM

haha...will look for it at the library...and make sure i have a glass of wine to assist me!! it is such an interesting subject...and funny that religions disagree over it so strongly...didnt jesus re-incarnate?? or not because he came back as the same person...then there is that bardo state someone mentioned...maybe he was there...if it lasts 3 days who knows???? ouch, my head!!!

Jesus rose from the grave, he re-animated. That's not quite re-incarnation, and he's probably either moved on or re-incarnated several times since the crucifiction. That would be one hell of a past life memory.

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 10:51 AM

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Posted 21 April 2006 - 04:02 AM

haha...will look for it at the library...and make sure i have a glass of wine to assist me!! it is such an interesting subject...and funny that religions disagree over it so strongly...didnt jesus re-incarnate?? or not because he came back as the same person...then there is that bardo state someone mentioned...maybe he was there...if it lasts 3 days who knows???? ouch, my head!!!

Jesus rose from the grave, he re-animated. That's not quite re-incarnation, and he's probably either moved on or re-incarnated several times since the crucifiction. That would be one hell of a past life memory.

Andrea

Thanks for that...imagine if he has reincarnated....would need some serious hypnotherapy and past life regression work! do you think that we rejoin at reincarnation with all important people from our previous lives..or work on one relationship at a time?? i feel particularly close to 3 of my 4 children, the 4th is a trial but very spiritual and caring...how bad do we have to be before we just dont get another chance?? and why as humans do we find mysterys and supernatural topics so intriguing?? have a great weekend...im off in search of my corkscrew!!!!

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Posted 22 April 2006 - 03:26 AM

Reincarnation - one concept that has interested mankind since they came into existence! One topic, which has helped religion evolve. One topic which would continue to intrest people eternally.

Do you believe in reincarnation? If yes, do you have any plausible explanations? If no, why don't you believe? Or are you somewhere in bettween?



Last week, after years of contemplating doing it. I finally went to a professional and underwent a " Regression" which means being taken back beyond your present incarnation to a previous one. I was aware that there are various forms of hypnosis but what I went through cant be described as being " not in control" Iwas still vaguely aware of the fact that I was lying on a couch, but my mind was totally elsewhere.
The whole procedure took 3 hours, that was just the beginning of a few sittings I would like to continue with.
The therapist ( who is a well know professional here ) explained in depth about the various situations that could occur, for example, if something bad would arise he would allow me to view it from a standpoint " outside of the situation" so it would not hurt me. He took a long time to be sure he had answered any questions I had. I wasnīt really expecting it to work, so you all can imagine what a surprise I was in for.

After being slowly and gently talked into a form of relaxation I was sent slowly backward in time. I met my own personal Spirit Guide ( whom I hadnīt met before ) and he " protected " me throughout the session.

I began by finding myself in a childīs body, sitting on a bearskin in front of a huge fireplace, I was playing with a rag doll, whom I knew to be named " Ninny" The walls were covered with dark wood panelling, there was a window seat with gobelin type cushions and a milky colored glass window with lead " diamonds"

At the table there was a woman sewing by candlelight, although there was light still outside I felt it was winter. She was wearing a cap with stiff frills and a high necked frilled dress. I was aware that I was about 4 years old and that my father was the centre point of my life, because my Mother was " gone to heaven" as my Father had told me.
The therapist asked me what my name was and I answered ( I could still hear my own voice " " My name is Bess, my Father calls me " Sweet Bessie"
He asked me if I knew my surname and I could answer with a flash " Hardwicke" ! I then added that my Fatherīs name is " John" and that he is " so strong and he always takes me on his knee and tells me stories"

The therapist took me onwards in time to an " social moment " I found myself sitting at a long wooden table with lots of other ladies in very rich clothing and some rather " red faced " gentlemen. I was then about 13 years old. My Father had become fatter and I mentioned this ( by the way it was all taped by the therapist )
The table was absolutely loaded down with food and there was wine flowing freely. I was eating chicken in a very rich creamy sauce, it tasted very odd compared with the food of today. !

( so now I have to finish for a moment, Iīll continue later )

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Posted 22 April 2006 - 07:54 AM

Reincarnation - one concept that has interested mankind since they came into existence! One topic, which has helped religion evolve. One topic which would continue to intrest people eternally.

Do you believe in reincarnation? If yes, do you have any plausible explanations? If no, why don't you believe? Or are you somewhere in bettween?



Last week, after years of contemplating doing it. I finally went to a professional and underwent a " Regression" which means being taken back beyond your present incarnation to a previous one. I was aware that there are various forms of hypnosis but what I went through cant be described as being " not in control" Iwas still vaguely aware of the fact that I was lying on a couch, but my mind was totally elsewhere.
The whole procedure took 3 hours, that was just the beginning of a few sittings I would like to continue with.
The therapist ( who is a well know professional here ) explained in depth about the various situations that could occur, for example, if something bad would arise he would allow me to view it from a standpoint " outside of the situation" so it would not hurt me. He took a long time to be sure he had answered any questions I had. I wasnīt really expecting it to work, so you all can imagine what a surprise I was in for.

After being slowly and gently talked into a form of relaxation I was sent slowly backward in time. I met my own personal Spirit Guide ( whom I hadnīt met before ) and he " protected " me throughout the session.

I began by finding myself in a childīs body, sitting on a bearskin in front of a huge fireplace, I was playing with a rag doll, whom I knew to be named " Ninny" The walls were covered with dark wood panelling, there was a window seat with gobelin type cushions and a milky colored glass window with lead " diamonds"

At the table there was a woman sewing by candlelight, although there was light still outside I felt it was winter. She was wearing a cap with stiff frills and a high necked frilled dress. I was aware that I was about 4 years old and that my father was the centre point of my life, because my Mother was " gone to heaven" as my Father had told me.
The therapist asked me what my name was and I answered ( I could still hear my own voice " " My name is Bess, my Father calls me " Sweet Bessie"
He asked me if I knew my surname and I could answer with a flash " Hardwicke" ! I then added that my Fatherīs name is " John" and that he is " so strong and he always takes me on his knee and tells me stories"

The therapist took me onwards in time to an " social moment " I found myself sitting at a long wooden table with lots of other ladies in very rich clothing and some rather " red faced " gentlemen. I was then about 13 years old. My Father had become fatter and I mentioned this ( by the way it was all taped by the therapist )
The table was absolutely loaded down with food and there was wine flowing freely. I was eating chicken in a very rich creamy sauce, it tasted very odd compared with the food of today. ! I think there must have been some rather strong spices added which I cannot describe. There was a podest at the end of the huge hall where some musicians were playing, but it was quite impossible to hear much because of the noise of the laughter etc. The floor was rather rough flagstones but there were bunches of lavender and I think straw all over it. I know there were huge dogs, mastiffs, who were just lying around near my fatherīs chair. The hall was so long that there were at least 3 fireplaces on each side. I know I was having a lot of fun and that my Father would now and then raise a toast to his " Sweet Bess" I felt very happy and contented.

Then the therapist asked me to take him to an " important time " in my life. I found myself giggling and telling him I had met my " husband" and that his name is Robert and that I am so happy with him. I described meeting him and that we were so much in love. He was about 16.!

Again I was taken onwards, but to an hour before my death. I was asked to describe where I was, and who I could see.

I was sitting in a chair in a walled in garden. There were a lot of people in the garden, I described some of them as being my children. I thought I had 5 or 6 children, and many grandchildren. I looked down at my hands, saw them covered in rings, but absolutely old and wrinkled. That bothered me very much and I complained that I had always been proud of my long fingers and my graceful hands. I considered my hands to be very pretty, seeing them old got me rather upset.

I was asked to take myself to 5 minutes before my death, and how I felt. I felt a dreadful tightness in my chest, and sort of sick and dizzy. Everyone was still having a good time and I couldnt make myself noticed to them.

The therapist said " you are now leaving your body, what do you feel "

I saw myself sitting in the chair, my head had fallen down. I was very very old and thin. I felt nothing looking at my body, no particular emotions, except I felt myself free and very light somehow.

He then asked me what I did. I said I went to my husband ( but I didnīt recognise him as being Robert ) and I put my hand on his shoulder, he didnt notice it, but I noticed that my hand was the hand of a young woman, and I was astounded. Then I saw that everyone was running towards that what had been my body and that they were so upset and confused. But I didnīt seem to care. I just walked to the end of the garden,and didnīt look back.

The therapist brought me back at this stage.



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