orbs, are they dust motes or ghosts?
Posted 07 March 2006 - 07:38 PM
Posted 09 March 2006 - 09:04 PM
Posted 10 March 2006 - 12:40 PM
"Spirit Orbs" in person, both visiting me in my room. and trust me they cant be missed, about golf ball sized and brightly glowing(one orange, one red). when i say glowing i mean i could see the light from them reflecting off of the wall.
Posted 10 March 2006 - 01:12 PM
Posted 10 March 2006 - 01:31 PM
Hi TimeWillTell ( I like your nickname by the way),
Through a lot of this I've been trying to figure out orbs now for the past four years (and counting).
I've gone from being on the fence, to falling off on both sides (skeptical and believer) to being thrown over the fence. I think I may have even crashed through it once ( I have a few orb related posts on here that consist of this this and even this !).
Accounts of people seeing balls of light have been around for a few hundred years now. They have been called "Will 'O The Wisps", "Corpse Lights", "Dead Lights" (I don't know if this is related, but pirates referred to their own eyes as being "dead lights"), "Ghost Lights", and in Australia "Min Min Lights". I think Feus told me that one.
I have heard many accounts of people actually seeing this phenomena with their own, naked eyes. My fiancee saw two once go by on the floor that weren't bright, but shadowy. My brother had one float into his room, which he held. He said he's never felt happier in his life at that moment. This was in my grandparents house about a year after my grandmother died. This is what my brother related to me. He still doesn't believe it. He's probably the biggest skeptic you'll ever meet.
So, what I've been able to piece together, so far, is that these lights or "orbs" started to appear as being related to ghosts when they began appearing in people's pictures and video during ghost investigations. Now , I agree, most of these "orbs" are easily explainable as either being caused by environmental factors or human error. It's the ones that dance around on video (I don't mean floating by the camera, I mean coming out of nowhere and zipping around. Bugs will do this, and look like orbs, but if you look closely, these "orbs" will have tiny bumps on either side. These are wings.), or the ones that don't fit the characteristics of the explainable "orbs" in pictures, that I give attention.
Ghost research is frustrating. It is very easy to fake evidence and people do it. But I think through proper research and a little patience, someday (not in my lifetime) humans will solve the mystery of ghosts.
Posted 10 March 2006 - 01:47 PM
Posted 10 March 2006 - 02:25 PM
Posted 11 March 2006 - 03:52 AM
Posted 12 March 2006 - 01:41 AM
Posted 12 March 2006 - 02:23 AM
Think of any picture you've seen taken towards the sun, video or stills. The light is refracted through the lense and on video you get little pearl necklaces, on stills you get one or two orbs. These are not dust or bugs.
It would stand to reason there are free energy orbs floating around all the time. So you have to eliminate these as well as the dust, pollen bugs etc. Just trying to make a difficult subject more difficult, no thanks are required. lol
Posted 27 March 2006 - 06:51 PM
I'd have more time for the notion if it didn't seem to have manifested itself at exactly the same time as a proliferation of dodgy photographic technique.
Posted 27 March 2006 - 07:08 PM
And we do run orbs through the gauntlet here in regards to discussion. Isn't that why we're here?
Posted 27 March 2006 - 07:31 PM
Sorry. I was just being sceptical. Is this not the right forum for it?
Stating that we are all here to sell Jeff's books is not exactly what this particular forum in Ghostvillage was set up for.
While you are certainly welcome to express a skeptical point of view regarding any paranormal phenomena, from pictures, to encounters, to whatever, and you are certainly welcome to engage in a debate in a mature and intelligent manner, and welcome to express doubts and/or share a personal theory or a theory that makes sense to you, making little digs is just not nice at all and is totally uncalled for.
So let's all play nice, shall we?
Back to the discussion at hand. That being, what are we to make of orbs that cannot be attributed to dust, pollen, floating hairs, moisture, etc, etc.
What orbs? What phenomena?
What body of evidence is there to suggest that this was a common phenomena 10 or 20 years ago?
It seems to me that it's sprung up recently, and in tandem with lots of people with cameras. Rather than being something that only now can be recorded, it appears to be something that is recorded, by cameras.
I'm not a young man and I live in a densely populated country that has been so for a thousand years or so, never, until coming here, had I heard of orbs. Ghost stories we have a plenty, but not orbs. Will 'o' the Wisps perhaps but not commonly sighted and mostly associated with marshes.
Posted 27 March 2006 - 07:44 PM
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