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#1 liz101.1

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 10:24 AM

So i know this topic will offend some, but I think you guys should know what my mother and I have gone through. We found the website for the shadowlands and thought it was pretty cool with the haunted places index and all so we thought we would check out some of the places on the list. We decided to do an investigation into the Dartford cemetary, we were there a few times and found nothing at all day or night. So we e-mailed them to let them know about it, thinking they would post an update saying a group investigated and found nothing. The didn't, what they did is tell us to keep going on the same place, sometime you have to visit a place a lot of times before you find something. So basically what it was, is keep going until you find something to make yourself believe it's supernatural. Also, on there list of Wisconsin was a road in Rosendale I drove through Rosendale, it's not a big city. THERES IS NO WITCH ROAD IN ROSENDALE!!!! There now my story has been spoke.
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#2 DukeofBoogie

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 10:46 AM

The internet is a vast pool of information, and not all of it is accurate. I personally haven't visited the Shadowlands site in quite awhile, but we at GV try to refrain from bashing other websites. They probably get their info from various people who have visited the sights. The Shadowlands folks are based in New Jersey I believe, so the probably haven't been to all the places mentioned there.

But they are correct in at least one respect. The supernatural does not perform on cue. You found nothing on your firt trip. Next time you may have more success.

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I'm moving this topic to the Paranormal Websites subboard of Paranormal Media, where it it's better suited.

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#3 Vampchick21

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 11:03 AM

Full agreement with Duke. Ask any single member of any paranormal investigation group, and they'll tell you that there are times when you go to a place with a reputation, or even a place that another group has investigated with success and get nothing. You have to keep going and going and investigating in order to get evidence. It's not a matter of 'making yourself believe it's supernatural', which really is a negative way of looking at it.

Paranormal phenomena is outside of human control, rather like the weather.

And I doubt you'll find any road labeled 'Witch Road' on a map of any city, never mind Rosendale (and btw....why would it matter if it's a sleepy two horse town, or a city of significant size?). That sort of thing is found in local legend, which many websites collect and share. Driving through Rosendale isn't exactly going to prove or disprove the exisitance of a road which locals refer to as Witch Road.

Honestly, I don't think you and your mother went through anything horrible in terms of your experience.

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 11:10 AM

So what you guys are saying is keep going and going back to a spot until I find something. Would you guys like to see what we found at the cemetary. It's a nice pic. It looks like a black shadow figure standing there. If I were to post it at any site most would jump and say haunted. I have e-mailed shadowlands multiple times to tell them these things but all they did was tell us it's still there. I have hung out with people in Rosendale and they have showed me this "road" to say. It's an urban legend and thats all there is to it. And because they dont post updates, unless it's saying it's haunted or you'll get arrested for going no one can hear some these stories. So, what i'm saying is not bashing but information giving if your trying to get info for places to visit.

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 11:22 AM

Honestly, I'm not seeing what has you upset. If you wish to post your picture, we have a Spiritography section, feel free to do so.

Yes, you keep going back and going back, and when you find something, you go back some more. THAT is paranormal investigation. Because, as I already said, like the weather, Paranormal Phenomena is beyond human control. What exactly is wrong with repeat investigations? That's simply how its' done.

I honestly know noone at Shadowlands, and simply cannot comment on why they may not be doing exactly whatever it is you want them to do. (I'll be honest and state that I can't quite figure it out).

And if the Witch Road is an urban legend, then it's an urban legend. I see nothing wrong with a website sharing it for posterity.

And Shadowlands isn't the only place on the Internet for these stories. So frankly, if it's not on Shadowlands, maybe it's here, or on another website out there, since there really is thousands of these websites.

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 12:00 PM

I have other forms of experience with Shadowlands, but only with the message boards. I've taken a look into their WI locations as well and have come to a similar conclusion as you Liz101.1, however as much understand your frustration, I also understand Vamp and Duke's assessment. Shadowlands really isn't under any serious obligation to check out these claims.

Also, if there is any validity to the claims (read that as .0001% valid), there's no guarantee that everyone will experience something. Most huanted sites don't make good site seeing locations to visit for a few minutes.

Most are, I'll agree with Vamp here, are urban legends, such as the Whitnall Park entry for WI. Total urban legend. It's/was a teen hangout.

Sometimes you'll have the best luck at a location that just draws you to it, not one on a list.

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 02:32 PM

Well, I can testify that they do update but I think that it is a rarity. If you check the Minnesota page under Hibbing you will find an update there that I sent them. My team investigated the high school auditorium there and debunked a lot of the legends. We did find paranormal evidence and perhaps that is why they updated, I am not sure.

They just have this stuff sent to them and put it up. That is the problem that I see with a lot of sites that don't post their own stuff (not talking message boards of course) and only use submitted things. These submitted things are subject to being only legend or even falsified. You can't believe everything you see on the net. Keep an open mind and tell yourself that these people running that site are human too and not beyond mistakes. If you want to find out about a place in particular, my recommendation is visiting a site of a reputable group that has been there to investigate it, see what their first hand experience tells them. I think that you will get a much better sense of what is really going on that way.
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Posted 19 August 2006 - 04:45 PM

There have been a lot of valid points made here. The Shadowlands website is viewer submitted. It's fascinating to me to read through the list of places. Some of the locations are truly valid, such as the old state mental hospital in Kalamazoo, which, by the way, is off limits to investigations now because of vandals. There are other locations that are probably more urban legend than anything else, but it sill makes for a good story.

If you make one trip to a place on their list with the intent of actually experiencing something, you will probably be greatly disappointed. How many of us have done investigations at the same location on numerous occasions before getting a hit? Probably more than you realize. If you're really interested in the investigation bit, look for a local group that you can join.
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#9 DukeofBoogie

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 06:07 AM

I tell you what. It was Because of Shadowlands that I found a very haunted cemetery in Valley View OH, that I've visited numerus times. Funny thing to me is the have the my High School listed on there. When I saw that I had to chuckle a bit. I rember that in the very section of the building they mention, I always used to feel something. Never thought much of it at the time.

But even if your going to a place that is more legend than fact, you have to go in with an open mind. Don't believe everything you read, but go and see for yourself.
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Posted 21 August 2006 - 07:03 AM

The actual name of Witch Road in Rosendale is Callan Road.

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 07:55 AM

Heh, good work Wayne.

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 08:50 PM

I've been a visitor to theshadowlands.net for several years now, and like all of you, I've noticed there are some inconsistencies about some of the hauntings they have listed there. Obviously, the webmaster doesn't get too upset about it, letting the readers make their own judgments about what they read there.

I can't complain, though. They were kind enough to post a link to my web page under the Colorado section.

Or as my mother always told me: "Don't believe everything you hear and half of what you see" :(

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 09:21 PM

I dont know but if i get one more email about the dead mans trail entry in thief River Falls Mn im going to scream. I get like one a month and its not even a valid story i debunked it years ago its like a 20 fot trail along sombodys yard a shortcut kids take ontheir bikes.

I have investigated 5 or 6 of the shadowlands listing
1 I just told you about
2 started as a story written by an colledge student and got passed around as fact.
3 I got some evidence at
4.have found no validity but its still ongoing.
5. is comming up within a month or so.
6. was torn down before i ever got a chance to investigate.

I submited my findings and nothing was changed or added.
Not that i care a huge amount i just figured theywould want to have the facts straight.. i guess not..

I have also heard claims of them stealing stories and posts from other sites and messgae boards to add to the collection. they have peoples stories on there they never got any permission to copy.

I just dont go there anymore

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 10:47 PM

Wasn't the shadowlands bought by someone about a year ago? I think the founders still help the site out. yeah there are many places that are urban legands.

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Posted 22 August 2006 - 06:53 AM

The one thing I can say about the Shadowlands is that they do have useful tools and information. As far as updating their listings for haunted places, it leaves much to be desired. It is almost as if they take any report of a haunting and post it before they will remove a place that may not be haunted. I am not sure that I buy in to the theory that you continue to go back to a place to try to get evidence. How many times is enough? How tolerant are people to keep allowing you to return? What has been some of your experiences in this matter? How many times do you return before you declare a place not haunted?




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