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#61 WH Bonney

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 03:24 PM

Just as a point of Example, I recall Everything from my most recent Past Life. I was Navajo raised Spanish in the 1800's.
I recall where and when I was born to that life, but not who my Parents were nor what they looked like.
I remember who my Eldest Sister was, and she raised me back then. Our Mother was taken and died at Ft. Sumner, but we also Never saw her again.
Our Father was Killed during the ensuing Raid on our Tribal Homeland.
I recall well when I was taken by Kit Carson and the Ute Indians and placed with different people, my Cousins the Apache, and then sold to the Spanish and put into an Indian School (for lack of better Definition), at a Convent and Boarding School for Girls at Santa Fe, NM.
I was then placed with the Maxwell/Jaramillo Family, who was mostly Affluent back then and taken to thier Ft. Sumner Compound.
That is where I spent my Late Teen years and Early and Later Adulthood.
I was also traded to different Families for work that needed doing.
I changed my Surname Frequently depending on circumstance, to fit in with the Families to whom I was Indentured.
I recall well being married to William H. Bonney, bearing him 4 Children.
I recall fighting alongside him at various Gunfights he was involved in.
I recall well most if not All of the Regulators' Names.
I also recall well my Passing from that life into this one.
I died Peacefully, and came into a life far harder than what I went through then.
So, this is just an example of a few things that are Past Life Recall.



Who knows maybe you were his wife. I thought he had a child with Ms. Maxwell. His son looks very much like him/ Since Billy was never concidered a good boy and men are such scamps, I am sure he must have had some offspring. I lived in New Mexico. It is the best State in the union.

You know? I just did a big background check on my family, and I found out that I am actually a long lost relative of Billy The Kid alias William H. Bonney. My great great great grandmother was a daughter of Bonney. Billy (William H. Bonney) also had another alias name that is not and has rarely been mentioned. That alias is William H. Wright. I did not believe this at first, but when I visited some of my relatives a few years ago and questioned this to them, they told me that it was indeed true. They took out the one picture that Billy had taken, and they showed it to me. They also told me that Brushy Bill Roberts was indeed Billy the Kid, which was my great great great grandfather, or however it goes. They also showed me copies of the original letters that Bonney sent to Wallace and also to President Hayes. Knowing this now, it does make sense because I too am extremely fast with my reflexes and with gun drawing. And I have also always been drawn to learn about Bonney, my great great great granddad; Even Before I learned this truth.------W.H. Bonney

#62 babalon1919

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 03:42 PM

Used to be me, a long time ago.
But... same as always.
Just have more work to my Credit now.
Trying to get things back on track.
And put what I know to posterity.
Not going to say more than this.


But i have questions!

so...from your (somewhat conflicting) statements regarding dates of birth and wedding ceremony...Billy was only 12 when you got married? One of the Abrana Garcia genealogies (which you posted) states she was born in 1866...which means then she/you were only 5 when you married in 1871?

Two of your genealogy sources are in conflict:
NEW MEXICO STATE UNIVERSITY HOBSON-HUNTSINGER UNIVERSITY ARCHIVES
Oral History Collections
and the following (which i am assuming might be from ancestry.com since i recognize their format and such)

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Household Members: Name Age
Martin Garcia 33
Abrana Garcia 22
Antonia Garcia 7
Ricardo Garcia 5
Nabora Garcia 5M

Name: Abrana Garcia
Home in 1880: Albuquerque, Bernalillo, New Mexico
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
BirthPlace: New Mexico Territory
Relation to head-of-household: Daughter
Father's name: Salvador
Father's birthplace: NM
Mother's name: Manuela
Mother's birthplace: NM
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: At Home
Marital status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female


These must be two different Abrana Garcia's, since they both are in the proper format to be literal transcriptions from actual Federal or State Census forms from the same year, 1880.
  • One states Abrana was born in 1858, age 22; and the other says 1866, age 14.
  • One states Abrana was married to Martin and the other says Abrana was single.
  • One lists Abrana's residence as Cabra Arenoso, Fort Sumner, San Miguel, New Mexico and the other lists Albuquerque, Bernalillo, New Mexico.
  • In the one that lists Martin as Abrana's spouse, Martin is 11 years older than Abrana; even with considering another birth date you've listed for Billy, 1854, this doesn't work out, unless Billy falsified his age on the marriage license by either 7 years (DOB 1854) or 12 years (DOB 1859).

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
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Images of some of those citations and documents that you have would be a great boost to your claim.

BTW:
Kit Carson was one of Lucien B. Maxwell's closest friends. They were both mountain men and had many business and private associations over the years.

Calling Pete Maxwell 'Senor' seems somewhat odd since Billy and Pete were more or less the same age and Lucien was the head of the family in Fort Sumner at the time of Billy's being shot by Pat Garrett. Peter Maxwell did not take over his father's business responsibilities until after 1870 when the elder Maxwell sold the remainder of the Maxwell Land Grant. Peter did not come into possession of the family home in Fort Sumner until after Lucien's death in 1875.

Most of the accounts given by people who were at the Maxwell place either on the night Billy was shot, or shortly thereafter, claim that Billy was there visiting Peter's sister, Paulita, who married Jose Jaramillo after Billy's death. Many say that Paulita was in love with Billy and that they were lovers, but according to Paulita's own testimony in numerous interviews, this was not true. Either way, Paulita did not have any children, supposedly, until after she married Jaramillo.

Cimmaron NM Website
Clan Maxwell USA Website
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Posted 01 September 2009 - 03:53 PM

This thread is from 2006, and I seriously do not thing that the OP is around any more to respond to your questions (nor do I think she would respond any differently than she has in the past all over the internet - particularly on Billy the Kid and American West discussion forums...which is to say, non-answers at best)

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#64 babalon1919

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 04:48 PM

This thread is from 2006, and I seriously do not thing that the OP is around any more to respond to your questions (nor do I think she would respond any differently than she has in the past all over the internet - particularly on Billy the Kid and American West discussion forums...which is to say, non-answers at best)


yes, i realize the date as well as the author's obvious lack of presence on this forum since then.

my intention wasn't to argue or contend with the OP but rather perhaps help clue in anyone else (who might run across this particular thread in a search for Billy the Kid or something related), by giving a lead-in on a few sources, for anyone unfamiliar with this subject.

that's how i found your board
but i didn't register just to post to this thread, though, i'm not only avidly interested in history but also the paranormal and this looks like a good board!
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 06:05 PM

Welcome to GV, babalon, and I apologize for the confusion. This topic should have been closed a long time ago.

It is a fascinating look at past life regression. However, the OP failed to produce any validating documentation to support the statements listed here--even after many, many requests were made.

So rather than have historians and researchers log on to GV and think that this topic is a legitimate source of information on Billy The Kid, I'm closing it with the disclaimer that none of the information here has been validated by any known documentation. The reader should not accept anything here as accurate without researching additional sources of information.

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Edited by earth_spirit, 02 September 2009 - 06:07 PM.

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