Mrs. Bryan, on Nov 13 2006, 09:40 PM, said:
But i have questions!
Used to be me, a long time ago.
But... same as always.
Just have more work to my Credit now.
Trying to get things back on track.
And put what I know to posterity.
Not going to say more than this.
so...from your (somewhat conflicting)
statements regarding dates of birth and wedding ceremony...Billy was only 12 when you got married? One of the Abrana Garcia genealogies (which you posted)
states she was born in 1866...which means then she/you were only 5 when you married in 1871?
Two of your genealogy sources are in conflict:
NEW MEXICO STATE UNIVERSITY HOBSON-HUNTSINGER UNIVERSITY ARCHIVES
Oral History Collections
and the following (which i am assuming might be from ancestry.com since i recognize their format and such)
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Household Members: Name Age
Martin Garcia 33
Abrana Garcia 22
Antonia Garcia 7
Ricardo Garcia 5
Nabora Garcia 5M
Name: Abrana Garcia
Home in 1880: Albuquerque, Bernalillo, New Mexico
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
BirthPlace: New Mexico Territory
Relation to head-of-household: Daughter
Father's name: Salvador
Father's birthplace: NM
Mother's name: Manuela
Mother's birthplace: NM
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: At Home
Marital status: Single
These must be two different Abrana Garcia's, since they both are in the proper format to be literal transcriptions from actual Federal or State Census forms from the same year, 1880.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
Images of some of those citations and documents that you have would be a great boost to your claim.
- One states Abrana was born in 1858, age 22; and the other says 1866, age 14.
- One states Abrana was married to Martin and the other says Abrana was single.
- One lists Abrana's residence as Cabra Arenoso, Fort Sumner, San Miguel, New Mexico and the other lists Albuquerque, Bernalillo, New Mexico.
- In the one that lists Martin as Abrana's spouse, Martin is 11 years older than Abrana; even with considering another birth date you've listed for Billy, 1854, this doesn't work out, unless Billy falsified his age on the marriage license by either 7 years (DOB 1854) or 12 years (DOB 1859).
Kit Carson was one of Lucien B. Maxwell's closest friends. They were both mountain men and had many business and private associations over the years.
Calling Pete Maxwell 'Senor' seems somewhat odd since Billy and Pete were more or less the same age and Lucien was the head of the family in Fort Sumner at the time of Billy's being shot by Pat Garrett. Peter Maxwell did not take over his father's business responsibilities until after 1870 when the elder Maxwell sold the remainder of the Maxwell Land Grant. Peter did not come into possession of the family home in Fort Sumner until after Lucien's death in 1875.
Most of the accounts given by people who were at the Maxwell place either on the night Billy was shot, or shortly thereafter, claim that Billy was there visiting Peter's sister, Paulita, who married Jose Jaramillo after Billy's death. Many say that Paulita was in love with Billy and that they were lovers, but according to Paulita's own testimony in numerous interviews, this was not true. Either way, Paulita did not have any children, supposedly, until after she married Jaramillo.
Cimmaron NM Website
Clan Maxwell USA Website
Love of Billy the Kid