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#16 Moongoddess

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Posted 07 December 2003 - 08:33 PM

My friends old house is haunted and her dogs used to go BESERK, I had my first experience at that house. But she moved I wish that she didn't though now that I'm not so AFRAID [smiley=cwm24.gif] ahhh he he. I read somewhere that dogs (I dunno about cats) see in infrared or something like that.
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Posted 08 December 2003 - 02:10 PM

Dogs can see in "near infrared".  This is the same wavelength that comes out of your remote control for the tv, ect.  That is why I do my research with a Sony camcorder that can also "see" in near infrared.  Based on my fieldwork paranormal anomalies seem to reflect, or emit near infrared well.   :)


btw Cats ONLY see themselves.  They believe that the universe revolves around them.  *snicker*
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Posted 08 December 2003 - 05:53 PM

Ohhh MY FLYING ORD  ::), Thats so true about cats LOL, This is probably a DUMB QUESTION  :-/ But can you get sony handycams that are infrared???
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Posted 08 December 2003 - 07:37 PM

Hi moon beam,

You can get handycams that are near infrared, but you can't get them 100% infrared. I don't really think you need 100% for investigation, though.  If you really want 100% infrared, the only way to do that is to by infrared film for your camera.  It's about $20 for a 36 exposure roll, and good luck finding a photo proscessor that will develop it.  Usually real photo shops will do it (not wal-mart or the local drugstore, but a specialist), but it will cost you almost as much as the film did originally to get it developed.
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Posted 08 December 2003 - 11:48 PM

:-/ Another STUPID QUESTION, Ahhh HE HE would night vison work?
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Posted 09 December 2003 - 04:25 AM

Hi Moonbeam,

There is no such thing as a stupid question, ask away. We are all have questions and share informatiion to try and reason out answers to them.

Mastermind is right.  Pure "infrared" is what we perceive as heat.  The digital cameras that do this are called FLIR systems (Forward Looking Infrared) and will set you back many thousands of dollars.  Industrial thermal cameras start about $10000, add a $100000 for a FLIR.  Beyond my means for sure LoL.

A Sony camcorder with nightshot is really all you need to catch some great images in "near" infrared though and is much more affordable.  The image that I use for my avatar- to the left, is a near infrared image of an Indian Warrior just before he went into the light. (if you are limited to 256 colors you probably won't see him clearly).  You can see the face, eyes, nose and a "mohawk" haircut, that was some night indeed!

You can also sometimes see paranormal anomalies with nightvision goggles.  Problem is that sometimes a manifestation only lasts for a fraction of a second.  We miss it with our eyes, but going frame-by-frame through videotape slows it down enough for us to see it.

I use Gen 1 Russian night vision goggles.  The IR emitter on my camcorder seems like a floodlight through the goggles and I move comfortably through the night- in complete darkness.  This causes some amusing moments with my ghost hunting buddies.  I can sit, or walk through the dark without being seen by them.  I don't try to delibertly startle them, but it is unavoidable when they finally are close enough to see me, or hear me, I am sure that a few adrenaline surges have been caused.  Hope this helps answer some of your questions.  ;D
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Posted 09 December 2003 - 08:53 AM

Thanks flyingorb.  I didn't realize that full-infrared was so expensive.  YIKES!!!  :o :o
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Posted 10 December 2003 - 08:26 AM

Yup, that's the stuff yo usee when they show you the difference between car that hasn't gone anwywhere and a car that was just parked.  The hood is whiter, even the tires are whiter.  You can see hand prints placed on objects becuase the body heated up that object.  Yo ucan litterally see foot prints left behind by people, or find a person in pitch blacknes hiding in a very thing bush.  It's what's used by law enforcement and the military.
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Posted 10 December 2003 - 01:05 PM

Yeah, infrared film (still film) is close to that.  You can't see foot or handprints, but you can see heat signatures on cars and people if you take the photos at night.  Too bad that requires LONG LONG exposure times, though.
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