Can Christans do magic
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christan magick
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, Jan 28 2004 03:28 PM
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 03:28 PM
-Du Súndavar Freohr-===================================--------------------------------------------Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, "I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here and drink what comes out"?
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 06:10 PM
Oh yes.... depends on what your definition of magic is. Is not a prayer a ritual. is not an answered prayer the result of something magical?
Is the art of life, living somewhere in between?
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Posted 28 January 2004 - 07:27 PM
anyone can do magic, provided the steps are properly followed!
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Posted 29 January 2004 - 09:09 AM
Living this close to Baja, I've seen and talked with Mexican Brujas, healers and scryers mostly and they are very, very Catholic
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Posted 29 January 2004 - 09:54 AM
My definition of magic is anything you can't explain. For example, in the eyes of children, presents "magically" appear under the tree at Christmas.
As a Christian, I believe in magic. By eating bread and drinking wine, somehow I am made pure. By putting a drop of olive oil (or holy water) on a person's head and muttering a few words, we believe we can heal their ailments.
Was it not magic when Jesus fed the multitude with five loaves and two fish?
Everything we do in faith is really an acceptance of magic.
The warning to Simon the magician was that certain gifts and magics cannot be bought.
As a Christian, I believe in magic. By eating bread and drinking wine, somehow I am made pure. By putting a drop of olive oil (or holy water) on a person's head and muttering a few words, we believe we can heal their ailments.
Was it not magic when Jesus fed the multitude with five loaves and two fish?
Everything we do in faith is really an acceptance of magic.
The warning to Simon the magician was that certain gifts and magics cannot be bought.
I didn't lose my mind - I have it backed up on a disk ... somewhere
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Posted 29 January 2004 - 11:50 AM
Exactly Aloha. It cannot be bought. It is a gift, and we are given the how to use it, but it's up to us to fully understand it and then use it. And agin, how we use it, is up to us. I do not see black magic and white magic. I see faith as the power, and good people and bad people. The person is the black or the white. What you do with that mana is up to you.
Is the art of life, living somewhere in between?
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Posted 29 January 2004 - 02:11 PM
thank you for your help 
-Du Súndavar Freohr-===================================--------------------------------------------Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, "I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here and drink what comes out"?
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Posted 10 February 2004 - 07:17 AM
i'm late on this, but yes. i'm christian/wiccan and i'm all over the Magik. 
Perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim. --Ovid--
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Posted 25 February 2004 - 05:32 AM
Sure Wind!
do the same spells but change the wording slightly (e.g. mentioning saints for protection spells and so on)
they will work just the same...
do the same spells but change the wording slightly (e.g. mentioning saints for protection spells and so on)
they will work just the same...
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Posted 22 April 2004 - 12:21 PM
Christians can do magic just as long as you dont let what the church may say about you bother you. Or you dont use it to hurt someone else.
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Posted 23 April 2004 - 07:39 AM
i would suppose it depends very much on your definition of magic.
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Posted 23 April 2004 - 02:37 PM
Christians can do magic just as well as pagans. Take that as you will...
In the Bible, didn't someone (Paul?) even get into a magical contest with someone?
In the Bible, didn't someone (Paul?) even get into a magical contest with someone?
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Posted 23 April 2004 - 04:51 PM
What is magick but a prayer?
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Posted 25 April 2004 - 09:59 PM
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In the Bible, didn't someone (Paul?) even get into a magical contest with someone?
Elijah challenged the priests of Ba'al to a showdown. Each team raised an alter, laid down sticks and an animal on the alter and called after their deity to consume the offering with fire.
Many of the miracles performed by Moses before Pharoah's court could be considered magick: turning his staf into a serpent, changing water into blood, etc.
Even Jesus turned water into wine for the wedding feast and multiplied bread on two recorded occasions.
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Posted 26 April 2004 - 05:22 AM
Not to mention St. Patrick and the High King's Druid
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