Posted 25 April 2003 - 11:08 AM
One of the things that annoys me can best be summed up in the following encounter that I had with a "Wiccan".
This was my first time out with a "group" and we were investigating a local cemetary. I was more or less stumbling around because I had no clue what we were doing. When we got to the site, we were told to "do our thing"...well, I have no idea what my "thing" is.
During my stumbles, I happened upon a girl using a Ouija board. Now my experience with the board has alway been courtesy of "Hasbro"(or whoever it is that makes the game board) and I really had never thought to use this as an actual tool.
So after the investigation, I was curious as to how this worked and I struck up a conversation with this individual....asking her how she learned to use the board? Why she felt it worked? and so forth. She gave me the basic answers. That was all fine. She asked how I liked this group and I told her I was still feeling the waters as I was new. She then went on to tell me that she hated the group, but stayed with them because they were the only group in the area that "did" anything. I asked her why she hated the group(expecting to get an answer that was similar to my reason for not being interested in the group) and she told me she hated the group because she was the only Wiccan in the group and that there wasn't even another Pagan in the group. She then got up on her soapbox and proceeded to tell me that only Wiccans and Pagans have any real connection with the spirit world and that the rest of us just "imagine" it.
Needless to say, this was another eye opening experience for me (and I am old enough to have had many of these, but this one knocked my socks off!).
So I would like to hear from the Wiccans and Pagans of these boards, do you have an advantage or connection with the Spiritual world? And if so, Why?
Thanks for helping me in my quest to figure this out!
Posted 25 April 2003 - 11:26 AM
I can tell you that from my experience, I'd say you'd have to be a sensitive. Just cause you are Wiccan or Pagan doesn't mean much. I mean I go to cemeteries and it's my friend who's a sensitive that feels stuff or my sister who happens to be Wiccan as well and i'm left standing there like a lump.
Perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim. --Ovid--
Posted 25 April 2003 - 04:48 PM
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Posted 29 April 2003 - 11:04 PM
Take my hand and we'll go riding through the sunshine from above
Posted 30 April 2003 - 11:20 AM
Sounds like someone who really doesn't have a clue about Pagans or Wicca. I don't believe that being an empath has anything to do with what a persons faith/religious beliefs happen to be. Having lived 29 of my 43 yrs as a Pagan, it has been my experience that there are fanatics in every faith/religion. Sorry you ran into a wacko,JMO .
Couldn't of said it any better (except i'm younger at 27,lol) but you really have met the wrong person to speak on behalf of Pagan/Wiccans, trust me, we aren't all like that hun!
Or do things worth the writing.
Posted 01 May 2003 - 09:38 AM
Hear that? It's the sound of a can of worms opening. There are many types of paganism and wicca, and the people that practice them. One of my favorites is the IRAB (I Read A Book!). This is the person that reads one book and becomes an instant Priest/Priestess. They have the inside track on all manner of hidden knowledge, and can tell for a fact that you're doing it wrong.
Pals, recently in a web site I came across different forms of Wicca! What is the major difference between all these? Is it only in practises? Or is the base belief itself different? Does the term Witch applies to Wicca only? Are all Wiccans Witches? or ar all Withces Wiccans? Enlighten plz...... :
There are others who claim that they belong to a tradition that has been handed down in an unbroken line since about a month after humans came down from the trees.
However, the majority are people, regardless of age, who have a desire to study the Craft and all it entails. Some have more of a spiritual connection than others. Some have that connection awakened or heightened through study. Some never have it. I don't think that being part of a particular religion makes one more sensitive, but people may be drawn to a particular religion because of their sensitivities.
Does that help, or just confuse things further?
Posted 03 May 2003 - 02:58 AM
(this is a portal)
(a good portal that was refered to from the previous mentioned)
(yet another one from the above mentioned portal - but found to be good)
Take my hand and we'll go riding through the sunshine from above
Posted 09 November 2003 - 12:03 AM
The different branches of Wicca typically deal with different deity systems. Wicca itelf has only a few "hard set" rules (such as the Rede), the rest comes from personal belief. People of different Traditions (types of Wicca) follow the belief structures/deity systems of a particular pagan people (such as Egyptian Wicca, Hermetic Wicca, Fairy Wicca, etc). That's the main difference, in a nutshell (of course, this makes no two Wiccans the same).
Now, as for the "witch" question: All Wiccans can* (according to preference...some, like me don't like the term "witch") be considered witches, but not all witches are Wiccan. There are witches of other pagan beliefs. Again, it's all determined by belief structure. Not all witches follow the Wiccan "rules", but all Wiccan Witches do (or are supposed to...all but those dratted IRAB's and Witchy In The Nights and the like, but I don't really consider them Wiccan...just like they likely wouldn't consider me Wiccan, lol).
As for the original question on this thread, I DON'T think that the "wee-jee" girl knew what she was talking about. Likely she was an IRAB Wiccan and thought she could enlighten someone. I mean, Wicca's only technically been around for 50 or so years (though it's roots are in paganism), and there were mediums long before that. I mean, I can see where being a pagan could teach you some of the essential skills to heighten your abilities more than, say, Christianity could, but that doesn't mean that a Christian can't see ghosts.
Posted 13 November 2003 - 02:43 PM
I am a witch and I know people who are not, and they are just as sensitive to those things that cannot be seen as I am. I don't think that the religion you choose to associate yourself with determines your ability to sense forces and beings that are not seen. Some people are just born really sensitive to the energies that are constantly flowing around us. Besides myself, there are four other people in my family who are highly sensitive. My son for example can "see" what I can't sometimes. He has been telling me since we moved into my apartment four years ago that there is man in the house. He told me what he looked like. Then there were some other happenings in the house that made me :o want to investigate just recently to confirm what he has been seeing and what I have been feeling. Well turns out, there is a male spirit in my house. I have mailed some tapes with some great EVPs on them to KRCguns and he will post them for all to here. I am the only witch in my family, but I am not the only sensitive. I think it is a wonderful gift, but at the same time a scarry one. Just don't think that you have to belong to a certain religion to be considered legite when you feel or see the spirits around you.
Posted 30 November 2003 - 06:14 PM
Believe me when I say not all of us are that way - at least not this heathen woman.
Posted 01 December 2003 - 03:42 PM
I've known both Pagan Sensitives and Christian Sensitives, so I don't really think theological/spiritual beliefs have anything to do with the ability to see/interact with spirits
at all...its in your approach and how they view you. I have also known people of different belief systems who felt that no good whatsoever could come of talking with the dead, that
spirits/ghosts were demons. I don't happen to agree, but they are entitled to their views
Posted 02 December 2003 - 07:38 PM
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