Posted 12 January 2003 - 07:12 AM
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Posted 26 January 2003 - 05:46 AM
I will no longer continue to discuss this topic with you. Even when I have stated that I am not fighting you on this issue... you have found a way (by coming into the About Skeptics Thread) to come in and continue your bashing.
I have sent you a private email instead of rehashing everything here on the board. As I stated in that email, I would be interested in hearing your "Scientific Explanations" vs. what you have presented as "Belief structured fact."
Posted 04 June 2003 - 11:53 AM
Posted 12 June 2003 - 07:49 PM
Posted 12 June 2003 - 07:59 PM
I agree with you that skepticism is an attitude. I don't try and change anyone's mind here. I just present the evidence that I have collected and let everyone form their own opinions. I invite you to look around and see what you think.
I can tell you for a fact that none of the evidence that I have presented on this or any other site is faked in any way. That promise is for my stuff only as I can only vouch for myself in the end. Take a look at my pics and see what you think.
I hope that you stick around and give some opinions on the evidence presented here. It's always welcome to have a skeptics point of view on them. ;D
Posted 12 June 2003 - 10:03 PM
<snip>You often hear the phrase “ I used to be skeptical until……”. Here, the term is used to mean simple disbelief. The person was of one opinion and now has switched to another. There’s the term found frequently throughout the paranormal community, that indicates a mind completely closed to the possibility that any paranormal phenomena are possible and seeks to protect this belief by being overly argumentative and rude. <snip>
Hi, Jim. Thanks for so eloquently raising this important distinction. Tossing my two pennies into the hat, I would add that that a "skeptic" is often misunderstood as a "cynic". :
Interestingly, the subheader for this topic includes the term "disbeliever."
I had originally suggested to Flying Orb that he approach Randi's forum to invite additional opinions from the skeptic community.
Welcome aboard. Misery loves company 8)
Posted 13 June 2003 - 03:43 PM
Posted 28 June 2003 - 08:50 PM
There are a lot of things out there are that cannot be explained because we don't understand them. Sometimes they're called supernatural. Break that down for a second, that means "extremely natural." There are many things in the universe we don't understand, yet, but we're working towards understanding them as a species (I think, sometimes I dunno).
So I understand that the blind believers feel attacked because skeptics ask questions. I believe they exist, I want to know why but that's often misconstrued as "destroying" because I don't want to say "it's magical." I guess maybe it takes more courage for us skeptics to be open-minded and ask why than being a believer who simply believes in everything that someone says.
Or, maybe I just need to phrase my posts so I don't appear so confrontational....
Posted 29 June 2003 - 03:25 AM
I've read a number of your posts and don't think you are trying to be unduly "confrontational". If you state an opinion that disagrees with someone-thats expected, especially in this board *LOL*. In fact I look foward to reading your posts Maharet.
2 sides of the same coin:
A skeptic gets upset and calls a believer "closed minded" because the believer won't accept any half-baked mundane cause to explain what a believer feels is a paranormal experience.
A believer gets upset because a skeptic asks for relevant details that may explain the paranormal experience as mundane causal. The believer calls the sceptic "closed minded".
As you can see, the sword cuts both ways. We are all here to think about and learn of other points of view. Don't be shy about freely posting your particular point of view. Don't feel shy about disagreeing and posting your opinion. As long as a basic respect for the others point of view is maintained- it's all good.
Posted 29 June 2003 - 06:03 AM
I couldnt agree more. Stating our opinion allows us to test the waters. If we didnt question our results we would be as bad as the cynic who accepts nothing as truth and simply argues for the sake of the argument.
Posted 29 June 2003 - 08:35 AM
Some people, myself included, are very sensitive to the frequencies emitted from televisions. There are, in fact, many people who are sensitive to the frrequency. Some people perceive it as a very dull ringing and others like a pressure.
A local lady, sensitive to these frequencies, swore up and down she was being haunted by the ghost of her son who died a few months ago. She described the sound perceived from televisions and I was asked to investigate her claim.
So I asked her appropriate questions like when did her son die, where did he sleep, has she seen any apparitions in the house or the property, has she heard anything unusual. That's when she told me about the "noise." It was described as the noise emitted from televisions.
After further questioning, she heaard the noise most loudly when someone had a television on in her house or prime time vieiwing hours when her neighbors were home (they live in very close proximity to her house).
I explained I, too, heard the noise but not to worry because it simply means she's very sensitive to television sets. I explained replacing her TV with a more modern set would cut down on the noise. I also advised her to seek out one of our local, credible, legitimate psychics to speak with her son.
She was angry at first until I explained that a psychic could give her a much better picture of what happened to her son. She called me later and thanked me for my advice, saying I had been right about the TV but did'nt tell me if what the psychic had told her. I figured it was private so I didn't pry.
Otherwise, that lady would still be thinking her son was haunting her home.
Posted 29 June 2003 - 12:35 PM
curious, are you referring to an audible sound coming from the TV, or electronic "noise" leaking from the circuitry?
Posted 29 June 2003 - 05:04 PM
You can tell if you're sensitive if a television is muted but you can still "sense" that it's on from many feet away. You can also sense computer monitors being on without seeing the screen. It could be leakage, I don't know, I'm guessing it is. I know complaints have been up about it since digital cable has started becoming more standard. Digital cable is "louder."
I've been able to sense it since I was a kid but you just go about your business and eventually you stop paying attention to it. Unless there are too many TVs on in a place. Sounds pretty schizophrenic but it's nothing close to hearing "voices."
Posted 29 June 2003 - 07:22 PM
I am curious. Do cell phones, radios, microwave towers cause a reaction that you can feel? Have you ever had your friends set up an experiment to test what you feel/hear?
I have heard a spirit in my basement give an audible "NO" to me, so on the schizophrenic scale I guess you are far better off than me! *snicker* ;D
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