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[TheresaRHPS]

We have used both the "Radio Shack Hack" and the Ovilus in our research, and I don't find either one to actually be a useful tool in investigation...but DARN! The Ovilus is really fun to play with, lol. When we take it out to "play," we leave it on Dictionary Mode. For one thing, unless you have the readout, it is impossible to understand what that thing is saying half the time, and, thanks to audio pareidolia, you can hear just about anything you want.

From time to time, though, we will get pretty clear words that seemingly coincide perfectly with either whats going on at the time, or the known history of the location. Of course, ya gotta factor in how many words it spits out that have absolutely NO bearing on anything. That aspect, somehow, conveniently get "forgotten" with a lot of teams. I get frustrated when people present these little known facts about an entity's identity or history and when asked, it turns out that information did not come from records and documents, but through the Ovilus, lol.

As far as the Radio Shack Hack...which scans through radio channels...I have absolutely no use for this item, either as a research tool or a toy, lol. I had originally thought that you were supposed to piece together the phonemes into meaningful words, and when I pointed out the fallacies of that idea, I was told I was doing it wrong...that I was supposed to be listening "under" the speech into the white noise, lmao. I've never condoned using white noise in EVP work, again, because of audio pareidolia, so I just stay away from this device. I guess I'm not one of the chosen few---somewhere I read or heard where there are only a few chosen individuals involved with the original Frank's Box that were able to interpret the messages sent through it. I honestly cannot remember where I heard this, but I do remember that Rosemary Guiley and Zak Bagans were two of the individuals that had this "gift."

As far as phone apps...when we're having a slow night, we sometimes whip those out and "play" a little if there are no clients around, lol. I like the one that shows you your environment through the camera lens, but adds a little flitting ghost in, lol. The Ghost Radar one is great for scaring kids with on our tours, lol.

[White Witch]

It would be nice if this actually was a way to speak with the spirits.

[CaveRat2]

It would just as good if it were PROVEN that there were even any spirits there to speak to! A lot of circumstantial evidence to be sure but hard proof?

[Puti]

From what you all have said about "spirit boxes", it seems to be just as good as listening to a fan drone away. I know I have been amused to be in bed and listen to a fan and imagine what it might be saying.

[CaveRat2]

Puti, on 02 October 2012 - 10:07 PM, said:

From what you all have said about "spirit boxes", it seems to be just as good as listening to a fan drone away. I know I have been amused to be in bed and listen to a fan and imagine what it might be saying.

Actually that statement sums it up quite nicely!

[White Witch]

CaveRat2 I meant how things work on the other side in regards to contacting us.

[jimmary]

What about spirit karaoke?

[CaveRat2]

White Witch, on 07 May 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:

CaveRat2 I meant how things work on the other side in regards to contacting us.

Let's consider that for a bit. I will go on the assumption that there are spirits and they do desire to contact us and have for millenia. I will for the moment disregard the new theories regarding interdimensional beings, aliens, etc. and stay with the traditional ghost idea that spirits are deceased humans.

Now consider historical records. People have had visitation from spirits and recorded them for as long as we have been keeping records. Many legends are built up from ghost stories of haunted locations and sightings of various apparitions. If we accept this we can acept that people can see ghosts at times since early reports involved only sightings; long before anyone even considered a camera or recorder. Thus we can state that no tech is required and that the spirit can manifest in visible light since that is the method the early observers used.

It should also be pointed out taht at the time these reports surfaced there was no such thing as EM Fields generated by humans. The onlt EM Fields present were those created by nature, i.e. solar activity, lightning, static electricity, etc. Thus clearly we can show that such manmade fields were not required for a spirit to make its presence known.

So why do we seem to think that we need to come in and clutter up the area with modern sources of EMF in order for a spirit to make contact? Why the need to pull in radio stations for the spirit to communicate? Where did the spirit learn how to manipulate this new tech especially if our spirit passed over long before such devices were even thought of? We need to consider the "how" when we attribute this ability to a spirit as well as the "why". How does a spirit control the spirit box to create messages? And why would a spirit go to all this trouble when it has been shown by earlier observation all it needs do is speak to us?

We need to step back and consider what we are doing. All we want to do is make a record of a contact so why contaminate everything with a lot of white noise or other garbage? A simple recorder will do nicely since we are only trying to record a contact made by an entity whose history demonstartes it can speak to us directly without all this extra junk.

Of course one factor has been overlooked when we add the ghost box. we have just introduced something which has all the abilities needed create audio paredolia. So now consider two things about the scenario. We assume we have a spirit that can speak directly or a device that is known to be able to create false positives. Which is the most likely to provide real evidence versus false positives? I will leave that to the reader to decide based on the evidence at hand....