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[Paul_G]

[smiley=cwm5.gif] <- First of all, what in the hell is that? An intestine? Maybe I'm just looking at it wrong....

Anyway, my ex wasn't being cleansed for anything specific. I hear its rather a common ritual. She could not have been less N.A. or knowledgeable about such things - A jewish girl from Manhattan who was dating me, a British immigrant who's lived mostly in L.A. and Philadelphia. She told me she just forgot to throw the herbs into the fire, and I can't argue with that... I wasn't there. But theres no doubt that it wasn't very cool, and she wasn't invited to anything else after that.

But if nothing else, it taught me respect, and I try to communicate that respect to anyone who brings up the topic. To be honest, I thought it was all mumbo-jumbo before that happened, but I know better now. It was the most clear and consistent encounter I've had or have heard about. Everyone who spent a few minutes alone somewhere in the apartment during that time ran into it... there was absolutly no argument as to what it was. I wish I would have brought some non-believers or friends up there to hear it, but I didn't really look at it as being a zoo exhibit .

[freyjasdottir]

Whispers,

The part of the field has been animal less since the early 60's can't say for sure before that as my grandparents didn't move out there till '52 and my family is more likely to work then socialize.  There may be a great deal to do with a point by Owl Goddess there are old oil tanks  on a lot that runs in front of where the properties meet so maybe some sort of sepeage from there but my grandfather is downhill with a creek running through his property that begins at a pond on the "tank farm".  Not sure about crop-wise this is becoming a developed area and very few people still actually farm it, only two or three families currently out the ridge which runs quite a few miles.

[whispers_of_fire]

Hullo, Paul*You know, now that you mention it, I'm not sure if its a simian or an aviator, mate or maybe a gall stone or something*LOL your guess is as good as mine at the interpretation.

At the risk of sounding unfair to your ex, I thought maybe it was a matter of thinking "These poor rustic savages are so superstitious, I'LL show them that nothing will happen if the herbs don't go into the fire." Hopefully she learned something from that, if nothing else, respect. I'm not at all surprised she didn't get another invite to participate in a ritual.

You know, its intriguing, as far as trying to convert a skeptic, there are some who-no matter what kind of evidence you provide can rationalize it as something mundane.

Hi, Masque, that may be it, but only one way to determine it for certain if its the oil/chemicals? Had he noticed anything else? Were the crops at all effected?

[spiritdragon]

Hey Paul,it is a intestine of a buffalo. I agree with Whispers on your Ex. As for the burial grounds Whispers you might want to carry some turqouise,flint,or obsidian because non native charms will not protect you.Please do not take pictures without permission(if the burial grounds are on reservation land you might check with tribal elders on that). Most spirits will think you are trying to trap them.

[whispers_of_fire]

You know, that's something I hadn't considered, that it was on Tribal Lands, but I'll check to see if its on reservation
property*but would they have given clearance for an Archealogical dig, if it was?

I've been lucky so far in my dealing with older sites, so I make it a point of both explaining why I'm there, what the camera and recorder are for and asking permission to take pics or record them, but the idea of using turquoise or another native charm's a good one*LOL*My older sister's gotten better with her dealing with spirits etiquette<in other words she's not stepping on stones to prove she's not afraid of death any more>but I may have to have her stay in the van, at least at first

[spiritdragon]

Let's hope so. They might send a guide with you but heed thier warnings. So what are you looking for?

[whispers_of_fire]

Hi, Spirit,
The same thing I look for on other investigations, just to deepen my understanding of the soul's journey and; if possible, to aid those who linger to Passing into Light

[spiritdragon]

well good luck. [smiley=cwm20.gif]

[whispers_of_fire]

[smiley=cwm1.gif]Thanks, Spirit, this is just a neat area to investigate in...if I can win the Cal lottery, I may move there if not Chicago

[spiritdragon]

Who knows you might find a few prehistoric animals in your digging.I was wondering where is the site at? Oh BTW don't get alarmed if you find horse bones,buffalo skulls,and dog bones in the burial sites.

[whispers_of_fire]

Hi, Spirit...they buried animal companions with human companions?

[spiritdragon]

Yes,they do. It is not uncommon to have a dead farmer, warrior,chief,or shamen to have thier favorite horse tied and ritually sacrifised. The person was also buried with thier favorite weapons and other personal effects.

[Moongoddess]

Hey whispers, Well speaking from experience be careful, But go with an open mind (I know that you do this anyways) and take lotsa pics and EVPS you'd be amazed. I have had experiences where you walk into a place and your get that feeling of uhhh ummmm Hmmmm maybe I shouldn't be here...... [smiley=cwm31.gif]  [smiley=cwm24.gif], I'm from newzealand and being from a VERY VERY spiritual background (Being Newzealand Maori.....We have the same beiliefs and spirtualness as the american indians Infact we are like them in alot of ways). But like I said before be careful cause those kind of spirits are kinda scary  :o [smiley=cwm24.gif]

[glow=red,2,300]TAKE CARE AND BLESS
MOONBEAM  ;D[/glow]

[spiritdragon]

Hey Moon Beam in your culture do they have a spirit that wears a goofy looking mask or a similar false face?

[whispers_of_fire]

[glow=blue,2,300]Howdy, Spirit, I never realized that [smiley=cwm15.gif], I know many cultures buried warriors with their weapons or with the weapons of fallen enemies, I wonder how deeply Viking culture influenced NA culture, thanks, Buddy

Hullo,Moonbeam, No worries, OG and Spiritdragon gave me some really good ideas for approaching presences there with
gifts of jerky and cornmeal*LOL*I'm also a lot nicer to the dead than I am to the living [smiley=cwm4.gif]

If I may ask, are you in NZ?[/glow]