Native American Burial Grounds
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Posted 04 January 2004 - 09:22 AM
I'd like to extend an invitation to join GV as a full member, but in the meantime, feel free to pull up a thread and share your experiences.
I like the smudging idea before going in a lot, thanks. I'm
inclined to go with a food offering<corn meal or jerky>and tobacco since I'm not only a non-Native American, but I'm a stranger to the area as well, so it only seems respectful to
bring a gift, thank you for your insights and I hope you'll consider joining.
Whispers of fire
Hey, Unkle Bunny,
I hope its nothing serious, man, but it sounds like an antibiotic you're on.
I'm afraid my knowledge of skinwalkers is limited, I know there are a few kinds, those who practice black magick, the taboo breakers and I think its possible to be born one as well, but that may be my mis-remembering. I know that even going into an area they inhabit is call for major purification rituals to cleanse the taint
Posted 04 January 2004 - 10:32 AM
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Posted 05 January 2004 - 02:12 AM
Visiting a native burial ground or any other burial ground requires that you follow only two simple rules...take only memories...and leave only footprints.
in our belief system, once the rituals of cremation are done right, then the spirit who leaves the body does not have any "material" attachments with that body. But, as you have pointed out, any "mis-respect" can be harmful for the living. also the occultic powers who rules the underworld, and places like burial grounds and cemetries can be very harmful for those who violate.
by the way, WELCOMT TO GV TUSCARORA
Posted 05 January 2004 - 09:17 AM
I agree there seems to be some sort of attachment to the physical remains/burial site, though I think that may depend on cultural beliefs.
Respect's true no matter what the culture, I agree, whether or not you're born to that culture or not, I mean most people wouldn't barge into someone's home, start snapping pictures, turn on the tv, snag any intriguing bit of trinket and ask for something to eat, never mind...my brother does that on a regular basis*snickers*
Posted 06 January 2004 - 12:10 AM
Posted 06 January 2004 - 07:55 AM
My Grandmother used to tell me stories of skinwalkers, or shapeshifters. According to her, they were the spirits of those who were so weighed down by the evil that they had done in life, that upon death, their spirits were not allowed to fly to the west. Their spirits would forever be bound to the physical world, where they would exist for eternity, unloved and shunned by both the physical, and spiritual worlds. They would have to assume different identities in an attempt to hide what they really were. Apparently, they could present themselves as human or animal, and it was very dangerous to come into contact with one.
Grandma actually claimed to have seen skinwalkers...swore she had a horse that was one. When I asked her how I'd know if someone was a shapeshifter, her reply was, "don't worry, you'll know."
Posted 06 January 2004 - 08:20 AM
Posted 06 January 2004 - 03:32 PM
Hmmm...many of the tribes of the SW won't even shake hands for fear of skinwalkers, likewise is touching the dead a taboo, its curious, though the touching the dead I understand as any spirit can be hovering in the area and a touch may constitute an invitation to move in.
The eating an organ or drinking blood I have heard of to absorb a trait or the kill's couage/cunning, even the inherent magic. In fact I think the European classic age and medieval custom of claiming an enemies weapons was an attempt to do the same*and not be branded a ghoul by the more church influenced society :-/
Tusc,if I can ask, are you from around Toronto? The reason I'm asking is I grew up in Upstate NY and those were the native tribes, the Seneca nation/confederacy.
Hey, Unkle Bunny, DUDE...lots of nasty stuff going around, there's actually a flu-related death toll in Cal/Col so booty-whomping meds or not, its HECKA better than the alternative, my friend.
Not trying to sound disrespectful, but hopefully you know the presence of a skinwalker before you're actually tainted.
Speaking of that, is it touch/proximity?
Posted 08 January 2004 - 07:17 PM
Yeah, I am from Hamilton. Its about 45 miles from Toronto. My people come from the Six Nations reservation, in Oshweken. I live about 25 miles from the rez. The Six Nations consists of: Seneca, Cayuga, Onandaga, Mohawk, Oneida and Tuscarora. The Seneca at Six Nations are part of what used to be known as The Six Nations Of The Iroquois Confederacy...now, simply known as the Haudenosaunee (People of the Long House). As I understand it, the evil of a skinwalker, can be transmitted through touch, or acceptance, i.e. as a friend.
Posted 10 January 2004 - 12:24 PM
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