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Posted 05 December 2004 - 06:23 PM

I would like to know how people come up with having "orbs" in their photos ?

Orbs are indistinguishable from mundane reasons, so it's really up to the individual believers to interpret whether the orbs are "true" or "false". There's no knowledge in the field about what an orb is or what it looks like, or anything really. It's just a big pile of illogical guesswork.
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Posted 07 December 2004 - 03:03 PM

Hmmmmm

That's a thought..

What about a misty fog ?

Not a tornado rising appearance , but a mist rising from water?

Not temperature related.......durring the day


I know what I mean , do you ? :lol: ..ever see this ?

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 09:07 PM

This is a picture of a fireworks display from last Christmas.

As you can see it was snowing , so the fireworks are not too clear.

My question..

I would like to know how people come up with having "orbs" in their photos ?

I am not saying I do not believe in these , but these are all 100% snow flakes but how does a person know the difference ?

Now if this were taken in a cemetary woud a person say these were "orbs" ?

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I am certainly not an expert. But I really believe that I have photographed "real" orbs in the past, and I definitely feel that there is a real difference here. I don't know quite how to put this into words, but the snowflake orbs in your photo lack body and substance. They are lacking nuclei, color and energy, they are almost transparent. I feel that the real orbs are more solid in nature. Some of them even have faces.
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Posted 19 December 2004 - 03:50 PM

I've had encounters and seen photos over the past 21 years of my investigating. I can tell you that SOs most often emit their own light and are non-transparent/translucient. Many times the light emitted is intense, not in amount of light but in the quality of the light. Spirit orbs can be various colors, most dust orbs are white or gray and translucient.

In low light with 35 mm camera, I like to use 800 or 1200 speed film. 200 and 400 requires flash to take any decent low light photos. 1200 is ideal for low light without flash but 800 will work.

Dust, polen, water droplets, snow (of course) and various other particles will reflect light from the flash. Most dust orbs can be identified by a small speck in the center and concentric rings, like those of a tree's cross section, emanating from the speck. Sometimes the rings can appear chainlike, that is like a chain coiled around the center. The shape of particles can also determine the shape of the "orb".

Also the size and brilliance of the "orb" can vary, depending on how close the particle is to the camera lens.
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Posted 19 December 2004 - 04:12 PM

I've had encounters and seen photos over the past 21 years of my investigating. I can tell you that SOs most often emit their own light and are non-transparent/translucient. Many times the light emitted is intense, not in amount of light but in the quality of the light. Spirit orbs can be various colors, most dust orbs are white or gray and translucient.

In low light with 35 mm camera, I like to use 800 or 1200 speed film. 200 and 400 requires flash to take any decent low light photos. 1200 is ideal for low light without flash but 800 will work.

Dust, polen, water droplets, snow (of course) and various other particles will reflect light from the flash. Most dust orbs can be identified by a small speck in the center and concentric rings, like those of a tree's cross section, emanating from the speck. Sometimes the rings can appear chainlike, that is like a chain coiled around the center. The shape of particles can also determine the shape of the "orb".

Also the size and brilliance of the "orb" can vary, depending on how close the particle is to the camera lens.

Hi Axman,

I have some orb photos that I would like you take a look at if you're interested. I would really appreciate your opinion. There are quite a few to weed through, so I would understand if you don't want to do this. But, just in case you're in the mood...here goes: Thank you!!!!

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 04:50 PM

Most of those orbs do have the telltale dot in the center. The first photo you show has one just above the rooftop with a bright dot in the center. The fiddler photo has a brighter orb above and to his left. This orb has a darker dot but reflects light just the same. The also have the concentric rings or the chainlink rings. Chances are, with them being outdoor photos they are simply dust particles. Also, note that the raccoon isn't even aware of the orb in his photo. Animals usually have a sensitivity to paranormal activities. Some dust particles do have a fuzzy almost even appearance that sort of resembles a soap bubble.
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Posted 19 December 2004 - 05:15 PM

Most of those orbs do have the telltale dot in the center. The first photo you show has one just above the rooftop with a bright dot in the center. The fiddler photo has a brighter orb above and to his left. This orb has a darker dot but reflects light just the same. The also have the concentric rings or the chainlink rings. Chances are, with them being outdoor photos they are simply dust particles. Also, note that the raccoon isn't even aware of the orb in his photo. Animals usually have a sensitivity to paranormal activities. Some dust particles do have a fuzzy almost even appearance that sort of resembles a soap bubble.

Thanks much Axman for your time and your opinion. I really appreciate your input. As for the racoon, I think he was too preocuppied with nuts we fed him to really care about orbs. I think his belly came first. :D
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Posted 19 December 2004 - 05:23 PM

Please do not take my word for fact because I only speak from experience. I am rather iffy when it comes to orbs because so many factors can be overlooked. Mists are a stange occurance that mystifies me so I generally don't comment on thoem. A full-bodied apparition in a photo is another story, I've seen a few and am more impressed if it is not too clear of an apparition. It's better if I can look at a print from a film camera personally (Kodak paper and all). There are too many Photochop masters out there.
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Posted 19 December 2004 - 06:54 PM

I do believe in orbs but about 99% of the pics that people post I think are pollen, dust, rain or something else. as soon as I see more then three orbs in the same pic I beleve it's not a ghosts so I really don't look at orb pics besides if I showed one of my friends one and said its a ghosts, they would think I'm nuts so I really don't put much time in them

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 07:31 PM

Please do not take my word for fact because I only speak from experience. I am rather iffy when it comes to orbs because so many factors can be overlooked. Mists are a stange occurance that mystifies me so I generally don't comment on thoem. A full-bodied apparition in a photo is another story, I've seen a few and am more impressed if it is not too clear of an apparition. It's better if I can look at a print from a film camera personally (Kodak paper and all). There are too many Photochop masters out there.

I know what you mean. Orbs are hard to figure. It is still a fairly new frontier and open to all kinds of discussion. Hopefully one day, this exchange of ideas will lead to a clear cut explanation as to what they really are. Thanks again for your opinion! :)
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Posted 20 December 2004 - 05:15 PM

I saw some video of an orb that had the orb ascend a stairway, follow a hall and disappear through a door. That, I'm sure was no dust bunny!!!
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Posted 23 December 2004 - 04:23 PM

Hmmm .... that's different

Always learn something different on orbs !



Sure would like to see the vidieo on the one going up the stairway & through the door .... :blink:








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Posted 23 December 2004 - 04:52 PM

Hmmm .... that's different

Always learn something different on orbs !



Sure would like to see the vidieo on the one going up the stairway & through the door .... :blink:








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The video was one made by a fellow ghost hunter I knew about 12 years ago. I haven't seen him since I moved from Michigan. I know he'd still have it but I can't find his current address or phone number. If I do locate him I'll see if he still has it and if he can send me a copy on DVD. It's a rather amazing video.
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Posted 09 January 2005 - 03:02 AM

I just wanted to add in here that I have heard the a true 'paranormal' orb is meant to look just like somones thrown a golf ball in the air, its solid thick and white ? correct me if i'm wrong...and if moving, has a blur trail or blur on the outter edge? if this is the case, i think i MIGHT of captured one earlier..I will post it up in MY pic thread so you can see it and decide , oh and let me know if it is an orb and not somthing else...

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Posted 09 January 2005 - 03:14 AM

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