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#31 YankeePyrate

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Posted 11 January 2005 - 12:53 PM

I disposed of it, but since then I learned that you should never just throw it away...that you should burn it. I didn't know that. Anyway, I definitely believe that it opens a portal that maybe should remain closed,and yet we see these so-called games sitting on the shelves at Toys-R-Us just waiting for naive pre-teens (like myself) to play with it.


Funnily enough, my wife and I recently were in the market for a new board, and no Toys R Us around carried them. Instead we found it at KB toys. :weeee:

As for burning it, nah. I don't buy that at all. The board itself is just fiberboard, laminate, and a cheap plastic planchette. No intrinsic power whatseover. If you don't want it, just toss it in the trash. No phantoms will come out of the trash, I promise. :weeee:

The power of the board comes completely from the users. What you are doing is allowing a spirit to tap into your body energy and essentially use you to move the planchette. Well, let me rephrase, that sounds too much like possession. ;) I feel that the users ARE moving the planchette, but are not concious of it. Because the spirits are basically filtering their messages THROUGH your subconcious resulting in ideomotor movements of your fingertips. This makes it hard sometimes to distuingish what could be YOUR subconcious versus a true spirit communication.

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Posted 11 January 2005 - 03:41 PM

I hear that they sell "Glow in the Dark" Ouijia boards now.

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Posted 11 January 2005 - 05:27 PM

The power of the board comes completely from the users. What you are doing is allowing a spirit to tap into your body energy and essentially use you to move the planchette. Well, let me rephrase, that sounds too much like possession.  I feel that the users ARE moving the planchette, but are not concious of it. Because the spirits are basically filtering their messages THROUGH your subconcious resulting in ideomotor movements of your fingertips. This makes it hard sometimes to distuingish what could be YOUR subconcious versus a true spirit communication.

Well YankeePirate you may believe that it is a spirit which moves the planchette, however I do not, and you are not going to convince me otherwise. The ideomotor movements in your fingertips you are reffering to is controlled by your subconscious mind, furthermore your subconscious is able to control muscular movements of the arms as well as control breathing, heart beat and all other muscles and functions of the body without you consciously willing it to do so. So again it is your subconscious mind which controls the planchette, not a spirit. YankeePirate, Don't under-estimate the power of your subconscious mind.
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Posted 11 January 2005 - 08:03 PM

So again it is your subconscious mind which controls the planchette, not a spirit. YankeePirate, Don't under-estimate the power of your subconscious mind.

Yes, I stated that the subconcious mind moves the planchette via ideomotor movements. I also stated that I believe when a spirit is using you to communicate on a board, that it's merely "whispering into your subconcious" and you unwittingly spell out said message on the board. I also clearly stated that this can often get mixed up with messages from your own subconcious.

Well YankeePirate you may believe that it is a spirit which moves the planchette, however I do not, and you are not going to convince me otherwise.


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Posted 11 January 2005 - 09:25 PM

I personly love the ouija board. Its always worked for me, always been ammusing, always been interesting, and always has been a mistery. How does it work? Maybe we shouldn't know... but my thery is that it opens a doorway and the spirits move though you. But also, the subconsous could be in control.. you'll be able to tell if you think an answer in your head and it spells it out. Avoide that, its not a real session. I don't think? Its not evil in my opinion.
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Posted 12 January 2005 - 03:18 AM

I hear that they sell "Glow in the Dark" Ouijia boards now.


Yep..... and I have one. I have two regular ones, and the glowing one. However the one that glows is a bit smaller than the boards you usually see.

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Posted 12 January 2005 - 04:06 AM

Oh it downright sucks. What were they thinking? The board is WAY too small for the planchette, which falls off the sides all the time. Very disappointing.
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Posted 12 January 2005 - 08:33 AM

Here guys, this is the best article written about the ouija board. I think it is most informative. You can find more of her articles in the GhostStudy.com web site. Under articles. Enjoy. Who knows what is the real truth. Someday we will all know the truth. Donvega:-)


THE INFAMOUS OUIJA BOARD
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The topic of the Ouija Board comes up on the Ghoststudy Message board about once a month, with new members asking the pros and cons of using the board. We always have posts asking is it ok to use the board, and we also get posts from those that have used the Ouija Board with horrifying results and tales of the supernatural. I will present the facts and let you decide for yourself if using the Ouija Board is right for you.

The basic concept of the Ouija Board dates back to Pythagoras in 540 B.C. He would interpret messages from the spirit world with his student Phlolaus. The concept of the refined Ouija Board was invented in 1853 by French spiritualist, M. Planchette. It was originally a large piece of paper and the wedge that was heart shaped with two wheels on each end. The third end had a pencil attached. Then one or more people would place their fingers on it and the wedge would move and draw pictures or form words.

The modern Ouija Board was first introduced to the American public in 1890 as a parlor game and was sold in novelty shops. E.C. Reiche, Elijah Bond, and Charles Kennard created the alphanumeric design. Below the letters were the numbers 1-10, and in the corners the words "YES" and "NO".

Kennard called the new board Ouija (pronounced wE-ja) after the Egyptian word for good luck. The word Ouija is not really the Egyptian word for luck, but since the board reported told him during a session the name stuck. Kennard lost his company and it was taken over by his foreman, William Fuld in 1892.

To boost new business, Fuld reinvented the Ouija Board. He claimed the name Ouija came from the French term "oui" and the German word "ja" for YES.

All rights to the Ouija Board were purchased by Parker Brother in 1966. The sale of the Ouija Board is second only to Monopoly.

The Ouija Board is used in divination and spiritualism. The board uses letters, numbers and the words YES and NO. A planchette, a slidable 3-legged device, slides across the board and spells out words. It is manipulated by people using the board placing their fingertips on it. A question is asked and then the planchette will move across the board spelling out the answer.

Most people think that paranormal or supernatural forces are at work with spirit/s spelling out the answers. Skeptics believe that those using the board either consciously or unconsciously move the planchette. They claim the movement is not due to paranormal forces but by ideomotor effect, which is unnoticeable movements by those using the planchette.

So let's get down to business. Is the Ouija Board just a harmless parlor game? My personal opinion is no, it is not. Spirit will work with us by whatever means they can to communicate with us. There is a thin veil between this world and the Other Side.

The most common question asked is is it safe to use a Ouija Board. My answer would be yes and no. I would not recommend a novice person to just go out and buy a Ouija Board and play with it. There is the proper use and respect for the board which should be observed at all times.

I always like to say this when somebody asked me about using the board. Let's say you have to have surgery. In whose hands would you want to place a scalpel: a trained physician or a bum off the street? When placed in the right hands, the scalpel is a very useful instrument, but in the hands of an unskilled person it could spell disaster.

When using the board one should always open with a prayer of protection to whatever higher power they believe in. The situation should be treated with respect and not just a bunch of thrill seekers thinking it would be fun to "play" with the board. A serious, respectful atmosphere should be observed. Once the prayer of protection is offered it is best to ask that only the highest guide of the White Light be allowed to do spirit communication.

This is the biggest mistake that people make. They sit down and say is there anybody out there that wants to communicate. Only God knows what spirit they may attract. Think of it this way. Let's say there is one public phone at Grand Central Station. One dials that number. Now, any one of hundreds of people could answer that phone. It could be a priest, a nurse, a real estate agent, a blue collar worker or a murderer or a serial killer. One just doesn't know. If one just dials up that number at random they are taking a chance on who may answer that phone. The Ouija Board works on the same principle. If you do not specifically ask for a particular guide or spirit to work with you then chances are you may bring in some lower spirit energy or negative energy. One may also open up a temporary portal to the Other Side while using the Ouija Board. This is a doorway in which spirits may easily step into this realm. That is why one should always say the prayer of protection so that a "gatekeeper" is assigned to protect from who or what can come through that passageway. A gatekeeper is a guardian spirit that will only allow certain spirits to come through.

Once communication is established ask only important or pertinent questions. Don't ask silly things like when am I going to die. I cannot stress enough how important it is to be respectful when using the Ouija Board.

When you are finished with the board it is important to seal it and close the portal. Do this by saying another prayer and ask that the portal be closed and that any and all spirits return to the Other Side where they came from.

Treat the board with respect. It is a divination tool. You should always be serious minded and reverent when you use it. It is not just a game as is the popular belief.

It is also a common myth that one can communicate with their deceased loved ones by using the Ouija Board. Unless one possesses the psychic skills of performing mediumship it is highly improbably that one will be able to connect with a particular loved one that is deceased.

I have been called out on several occasions to homes where people have just toyed around with the board and called in spirits. They did not know the proper procedure in using the board which resulted in a spirit lingering in the home. I then had to rid the home of that particular spirit. Nine times out of ten, this will be a lower energy form that will cause problems in the home.

Some people will tell you that the Ouija Board is bad. This is not the case. What they should tell you is that improper use of the Ouija Board is bad. Again, think of it this way. A police officer carries a gun to protect himself from danger and to protect the lives of innocent people should the case arise. A murderer or a person that commits armed robbery also carries a gun. Is a gun in and of itself a bad thing? No, it is just an inanimate object. It is not the gun itself that kills people, it is individual using it that determines that opinion. So to say that a Ouija Board is a bad thing is not accurate. It is the people that use the board that determines what the outcome may be. Some people have very successful sessions when the board is used properly.

Please remember that whenever you decide to try spirit communication to always be respectful. Following proper procedure, being respectful and praying for protection are the most important aspects of using the Ouija Board. I am not saying that I recommend the use of the board to just anybody, I don't. Over the years I have experienced first-hand the ill-effects of people just playing around with the board. Again, I caution each individual to use the board at their own risk. There is no guarantee that by following the instructions and offering a prayer of protection that one will be immune from calling in a malevolent spirit if you are using the board with other individuals.

Signed, Psychic Jill

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Posted 12 January 2005 - 01:53 PM

Good article.

It is also a common myth that one can communicate with their deceased loved ones by using the Ouija Board. Unless one possesses the psychic skills of performing mediumship it is highly improbably that one will be able to connect with a particular loved one that is deceased.


This I've found to actually work quite well. My wife and I have been using a board to communicate with her grandmother for a couple months now. Of course she lived right next door, and is still lingering there. Not haunting it, but she is still there. So maybe that has something to do with it.
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Posted 13 January 2005 - 08:43 AM

I agree, the article seems to me to be quite creditable and if you read her credentials in the ghoststudy website, you will see she is quite experieanced as a physic. I see by the posts that many of us are just guessing at how, what and why of the quija board. At least this article explains with what appears to me to be common sense and quite accurate. Glad it helped. DonVega:-)

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Posted 13 January 2005 - 08:57 AM

Although many people's "common sense" could be argued as well. Whether psychics are "real" or not..... could be argued. I find the thought of a Ouija board and not any other device used as a conduit, to talk to spirits to be quite.... arguable.

They may think they know, but until it's proven to some extent, I find it strange how much we take their word on these matters.

Common sense? Yes. It is strange to me how common sense seems to play a game of, *follow the leader* in terms of the paranormal.

Common sense or other people may say that it has nothing to do with the board or device itself, but rather the focus and concentration on what you are doing. The device is but a symbol and visual foci for that concentration. Thinking the Ouija board is gate or a key to the gate in and of itself is seemingly a narrow view.

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Posted 13 January 2005 - 10:19 AM

Well, this is based on only my own experience. I have used them several times in the past with some amazing results. Nothing that was ever known by myself or the other person using the board with me. What happens is that the board when being used becomes a beacon to the spirits and they are not attracted to the board itself but the concentration of our own minds. The spirits use your body while using the board and when you are finished you need to close the door before ending the session. These boards work as far as I am concerned and they are not harmful in any way. As far as what I have heard of conjuring up demons with the boards...bunk, to me at least since demons exist in the same place that fairies and the jolly green giant exist.
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Posted 13 January 2005 - 01:50 PM

Well put, KRC. I have a feeling that the afterlife is closer to Six Feet Under than we can imagine. But hey - we'll all find out someday, right? When some 13 year old girls are using the Ouija at a slumber party, and ask for a spirit, KRC can waltz up and have some fun messing with minds! It's probably quite the big joke on the Other Side, despite how serious we take it over here. :lol:
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Posted 13 January 2005 - 01:53 PM

not everyone may find out :lol:
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Posted 16 January 2005 - 01:59 AM

"This I've found to actually work quite well. My wife and I have been using a board to communicate with her grandmother for a couple months now. Of course she lived right next door"

I communicate with mine through dream world my Grandmother is very happy
on the other side she helps small children that pass on and people who died
unexpectedly like from a stroke or a heart attack who need a friend :)
It's very important for those who pass on that we don't blame ourselves
when they die when people feel guility or terrible about the loss of a relative
or friend it affects it them they know what we are emotionally feeling!

When my ex-girlfriend died of liver cancer a long while back I took the loss pretty hard sometimes when I was by myself listening to a song I'd start to
cry other times I felt all these emotions of guilt because I wasn't there at
the hospital when she died suddenly it was a bad time for me. One night when I was asleep she came to me in a dream (surrounded in a light) she told me that she knew that I was crying and she wanted me to stop let go and move on with my life she told me that she loved me. It was good for both of us I stopped feeling rotten and I met someone else and moved on with my life and she was able to be in peace :D




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